How are you guys jacking up your Yaris?

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by touroxin

The goal is to jack my Yaris up so I can rotate all four tires at once.

I have four 3-ton jack stands, Harbor Freight Model 38846
One 2-ton low profile racing jack, Harbor Freight Model 92782
The jack stands minimum height in 11-3/4 inches
The max lifting range of the jack is 18-1/4 inches
and a 2008 Yaris.

The problem is that when I jack up the car from the rear I can not get the driver's side of the car high enough to place my jack stand. I can on the passenger side if I take off my protective rubber pad, which I'd rather not do if I don't have to. As you probably know, the rear jack point is off center that is why the passenger side is higher than the driver's side.

What are you guys using to jack up your Yaris?
I have not even tried jacking up the front of the car. I think I know where the jack point is from looking at the 2007 service manual, but I'm not sure exactly where the front jack point is.

Any help would be great! Thanks in advance.
- Touroxin

I jack up the back of my Yaris and put a jack stand on each side. Then I jack up one of the front sides, do a tire change. Then I jack up the other front side and do another change. So LF goes to LR, LR to RF, RF to RR, and RR to LF. Takes about 10 minutes to do the whole job.

[nemelek]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

So LF goes to LR, LR to RF, RF to RR, and RR to LF. Takes about 10 minutes to do the whole job.

Correct me if I am wrong but dosen't the Owners Maunal suggest LF to LR, LR to LF, RF to RR and RR to RF. Using this method I only have to jack up one side of the car at a time.

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by nemelek

Correct me if I am wrong but dosen't the Owners Maunal suggest LF to LR, LR to LF, RF to RR and RR to RF. Using this method I only have to jack up one side of the car at a time.

This is one of those questions there is no right answer to unless you have unidirectional tire tread or a staggered setup. Some people never rotate their tires and have no issues.

Since my tires are bidirectional and not staggered on the Yaris I like to go FL to BL and FR to BR, but there is no wrong answer. All you are doing by rotating is hoping to wear the tires more evenly so you can replace all 4 tires at once instead of replacing the front tires first in FWD and the rear tires first in RWD and then having a mixed setup with 2 new tires and 2 old ones.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by nemelek

Correct me if I am wrong but dosen't the Owners Maunal suggest LF to LR, LR to LF, RF to RR and RR to RF. Using this method I only have to jack up one side of the car at a time.

No it doesnt.....The way you mentioned is for rear wheel drive vehicles, which are usually trucks. The way I mentioned is what is recommended by the tire manual for front wheel drive vehicles like the Yaris.

[TheSilkySmooth]

My Papa says it is not good to rotate tires so - now I have one less thing to forget about. Some thing about the " carcass set"

[TheSilkySmooth]

My brother says WHAT IS THIS "carcass set"?
is that The Dead Girl's Boobs?


sick boy

[john21031]

Originally Posted by TheSilkySmooth

My Papa says it is not good to rotate tires so - now I have one less thing to forget about. Some thing about the " carcass set"

You are right. No need to rotate them unless they are wearing unevenly or the fronts are so worn out that you want to give rears a chance to catch up.

Tire rotation is an old thing when cars had horrible alignment issues and had to have tires rotated. These days it's just a way for service technicians to earn a living... just like 3,000 mile oil change.

[SilverGlow]

Originally Posted by john21031

You are right. No need to rotate them unless they are wearing unevenly or the fronts are so worn out that you want to give rears a chance to catch up.

Tire rotation is an old thing when cars had horrible alignment issues and had to have tires rotated. These days it's just a way for service technicians to earn a living... just like 3,000 mile oil change.

You are spreading complete lies.

Tire rotation on today's cars is a must and the ONLY way to squeeze out the most milage from tires. It is as relevent today as it was 100 years ago. Surely you're not so ignorant to realize that the front tires will wear two or more times faster then the rear, yea?!?

I run the original Bridgestone tires that came on the 2007 Yaris Hatchback, and I over inflate to 50 PSI, and get this: I'm at 48,000 miles and can easily reach 50,000 and still have thread left.

So how and why you guys are getting sheet milage from your Bridgestones is beyound me...it must be your lack of good driving habits and lack of tire rotation.

The proper way to rotate radial tires is front to back, back to front. Only the old bias ply tires switched sides of the car....never do this with today's radials....

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by SilverGlow

You are spreading complete lies.


The proper way to rotate radial tires is front to back, back to front. Only the old bias ply tires switched sides of the car....never do this with today's radials....

So you're saying that cross rotation will hurt our tires?

[nemelek]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

No it doesnt.....The way you mentioned is for rear wheel drive vehicles, which are usually trucks. The way I mentioned is what is recommended by the tire manual for front wheel drive vehicles like the Yaris.

Page 252 of my 2008 Yaris Hatchback Owners Manual has a rotation diagram of what I stated previously. Maybe the sedan's manual shows a different rotation pattern. On my old 88 Toyota 4X4 and 04 Dodge Ram 4X4 the rotation suggests crossing the left and right sides.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by nemelek

Page 252 of my 2008 Yaris Hatchback Owners Manual has a rotation diagram of what I stated previously. Maybe the sedan's manual shows a different rotation pattern. On my old 88 Toyota 4X4 and 04 Dodge Ram 4X4 the rotation suggests crossing the left and right sides.

Toyota makes cars and Bridgestone makes tires. Dont follow Toyota's manual. You need to look at your tire manual. It says "Tire Maintenance, Safety and Warranty Manual" on the front of it. Refer to page 6. I am attaching a copy of this page but it might not work......

[nemelek]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Toyota makes cars and Bridgestone makes tires. Dont follow Toyota's manual. You need to look at your tire manual. It says "Tire Maintenance, Safety and Warranty Manual" on the front of it. Refer to page 6. I am attaching a copy of this page but it might not work......

Thanks for proving my point!

On page 6 of the Bridgestone Tire Safety and Warranty Manual it clearly states "For maximum mileage, rotate your tires according to the vehicle manufacture's recommendations (consult your vehicle owner's manual)."

I'll use the Bridgestone's recommendation to use the Yaris Owner's Manual guidelines on tire rotation. This will save me time and effort by only having to jack up one side of the car at a time.

In the long run, it probably doesn't matter which rotation pattern is used. What matters is that it is done in a timely and consistant manor.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by nemelek

Thanks for proving my point!

On page 6 of the Bridgestone Tire Safety and Warranty Manual it clearly states "For maximum mileage, rotate your tires according to the vehicle manufacture's recommendations (consult your vehicle owner's manual)."

I'll use the Bridgestone's recommendation to use the Yaris Owner's Manual guidelines on tire rotation. This will save me time and effort by only having to jack up one side of the car at a time.

In the long run, it probably doesn't matter which rotation pattern is used. What matters is that it is done in a timely and consistant manor.

The Toyota owners manual also says that you should not over inflate your tires by their recommendations which is 32 psi. It states that over inflating will cause poor handling, excessive wear, etc. So you go by your Tire company for psi but you go by Toyota for rotation guidelines?? You think that Toyota's psi ratings are a joke and that the tire company's rotation guidelines are a joke?? Sounds like you don't know who to follow or maybe you are believing every thing you see on the net?

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

No it doesnt.....The way you mentioned is for rear wheel drive vehicles, which are usually trucks. The way I mentioned is what is recommended by the tire manual for front wheel drive vehicles like the Yaris.

hmmm He's correct according to my 08 liftback manual.

just rotat front to rear, and rear to front.

I did rotations at 5k, then 9k, and am now at 18k and have skipped the last two rotations because tread wear is so similar it makes no difference. I actually still have slightly more tread on my fronts than rears. Go figure.