Love my Yaris...

[Chupacabra]

[QUOTE=Bob_VT;180825][QUOTE=09TRD;179940]Either you're dreaming or you ran up against a lot of 5.0/automatic cars and/or people who couldn't drive.

Here's an original road test of a bone stock, '88 5.0 Mustang notch; it ran a 14.17 @ 99 MPH straight out of the box:

http://www.derekspratt.com/PDFs/Auto...May%201987.pdf


As you can see, the SHO (15.2 @ 93 MPH) wasn't in the same league:

Where's your TRD Yaris pictures? We want to see the dump.

As far as dreaming ....... The SHO had a better top end than the mustang and my SHO had a few mods.

Do you think I am new to this game? I was modding my 66 chevelle when I was in HS oh....... my chevelle was only 6 years old then.

What do I know? Your the proclaimed expert on every car!

The SHO was a fast car...a friend of mine owns one. It hasn't been running for a few years but he loves that car and wants to do a rull restoration on it. Because of the rarity...it's not easy to get parts as you know. That 66 Chevelle wouldn't happen to have been an SS396 would it have? On of my favs with the Muncie!!

[Bob_VT]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

The SHO was a fast car...a friend of mine owns one. It hasn't been running for a few years but he loves that car and wants to do a rull restoration on it. Because of the rarity...it's not easy to get parts as you know. That 66 Chevelle wouldn't happen to have been an SS396 would it have? On of my favs with the Muncie!!

Yes it was my first car. I could not afford the insurance on a 58 vette so I got a 66 chevelle ss396 (two door). It went through 6 big blocks and 3 transmissions..... when it was all said and done I was bracket 1 racing it at National Speedway with a 327 coupled to a Muncie T10. Good old purple zoom clutch ..... it became a dedicated 1/4 mile car. As far as SHO parts there used to be a website called SHOtimes.

[Chupacabra]

Originally Posted by Bob_VT

Yes it was my first car. I could not afford the insurance on a 58 vette so I got a 66 chevelle ss396 (two door). It went through 6 big blocks and 3 transmissions..... when it was all said and done I was bracket 1 racing it at National Speedway with a 327 coupled to a Muncie T10. Good old purple zoom clutch ..... it became a dedicated 1/4 mile car. As far as SHO parts there used to be a website called SHOtimes.

One of my favorite muscle cars....loved the 66 SS. My old man bought a 63 vette roadster...spent every dime he had to buy it and got a great deal. He couldn't afford insurance when he first started college so the car sat until one day he risked it and brought it to school while his impala was in the shop. Welp...just so happens that the roadster was gone when he came out to go home for the day - stolen, never to be found.

[09TRD]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

One of my favorite muscle cars....loved the 66 SS.

The '66 SS 396 wasn't as fast a new, bone stock, V6 Camry, though.

It FELT faster because the old cars had lousy suspension and were noisy. The '66 SS 396 was 350 or pounds heavier than a new Camry V6 and it made less power...

Look, here's a vintage engine dyno test of a "350 HP" 396. (This one was a 1970 example, which was actually a 402 CID engine because it was factory over-bored by .030" that year.) It could only manage 288 peak HP in it's "as delivered" state and that's WITHOUT the factory exhaust system in place. (Figure 260 HP with the full exhaust system in place.) MOST SS 396s were the "325 HP" versions and made even less power!

[09TRD]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

The SHO was a fast car...

So you must consider a 15.2 second, 93 MPH (in the 1/4 mile) a "fast car," since that's how stock SHOs ran

A new, bone stock Camry V6/automatic will run mid 14s @ 100 MPH right out of the box. That's enough to embarrass a bone stock SHO.

The SHO's cylinder heads were junk by modern standards; it only made 220 HP for God sake. The new Camry's V6 weighs about the same as the SHO, but makes 268 CERTIFIED SAE Net HP and is therefore a faster car.

I OWNED A SHO; it was a 1995 that I bought brand new. My 2006 V6/6 speed Accord coupe was a significantly faster car. Both are dog A** slow compared to my '09 'Vette and even that isn't overly "fast" by some of today's standards.

Here, compare the Taurus SHO test results with those of a new Camry V6; it's not even close.

SHO:


CAMRY V6:

[Chupacabra]

[QUOTE=09TRD;180865]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

So you must consider a low to mid 15 second, 93 MPH (in the 1/4 mile) a "fast car."

A new, bone stock Camry V6 will run mid 14s @ 100 MPH right out of the box. That's enough to embarrass a bone stock SHO.

So by your standards the new V6 Camry must be a race car.

I OWNED A SHO; it was a 1995 that I bought brand new. My 2006 V6/6 speed Accord coupe was a significantly faster car. Both are dog A** slow compared to my '09 'Vette and even that isn't overly "fast" by some of today's standards.

Here, compare the Taurus SHO test results with those of a new Camry V6; it's not even close:

SHO:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...lbum/CDSHO.jpg

So are you willing to race my 4 cylinder?