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Old 11-22-2008, 06:59 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Bob_VT View Post
Would like to see a picture of the Yaris parked nose to nose with the Vette...............

Or are we going to get a link to a site that has a magazine review?
I'll snap a picture of both cars together next week and will post it.

I have HUNDREDS of "magazine reviews" from "the muscle car era," have driven many of them and have a mechanical engineering degree on top of it.

Your "opinions" of those old boats, while common, is based primarily in myth and legend and, as such, is essentially baseless.

Here is the absolute king of "the muscle car era." The engine option (RPO ZL1) cost more than an entire base Camaro of the period and was all but useless on the street. It would barely idle, woudn't start in cold weather and fouled plugs quicker than a rattlesnake can bite. In its "as delivered" state it made a whole 376 SAE NET HP (as measured at the flywheel and in its "as delivered" state), despite the fact that it was essentially a racing engine with an exhaust system. Figure 320 HP at the drivewheels as measured on a modern chassis dyno.

http://www.camaros.org/copo.shtml

That's chicken feed by modern, high performance street car standards. Your favored "1966 SS 396" made but a fraction of that peak power and was nothing more than a glorified station wagon engine wrapped in a cheap car with some fancy trim and a lot of advertising hype.

So is this (315 peak drivewheel HP from a certified production line stock 426 Hemi): http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/r...426/index.html

My LS3 Corvette will put 380+ drivewheel HP to the ground without any real effort and will do it on 91 octane unleaded gas (as opposed to leaded racing fuel) and with just 6.2 liters and with catalytic converters and all other modern emissions equipment in place).

And that Corvette, while fast, is relatively mundane by modern performance standards (not to mention poorly built).

You've got a whole lot of learning to do if you don't understand why modern engines make a lot more power per unit of displacement than the old crap did. (Modern computational software and the cylinder head/chamber design breakthroughs that software has yielded represent the single greatest advantage in power and efficiency.)
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