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Sabretooth · 12-02-2008, 02:35 PM

I understand the lashback I will recieve for this, but I am looking for help.

I got stopped by a local police that wasnt in my county. Was clocked doing 96mph. Now I have to go to court for it. They didnt issue me a ticket, but a mandatory court appearance. Now I have to ask, what is the best way to go about this.

I figured best would be to plea no contest and make a statement saying that I sorry for my actions and I understand what I did. Man up and take my punishment.

TinyGiant · 12-02-2008, 02:47 PM

you could get a lawyer for it .. he could probably get the fine reduced and you will have to take a defensive driving course to keep the points down.

you could try and get that option yourself... thats going to be a hefty fine..

how old are you? (not being wise here... depending on your age the judge might have different ideas for fines/punishment)

Stargate YARlantIS · 12-02-2008, 02:56 PM

What was the speed posted??

KCALB SIRAY · 12-02-2008, 04:54 PM

You are screwed. The only way you can avoid this is to raise a doubt to the judge that you were not going that fast. Doing so would require to much work on your end and not worth the time. You'd have a better chance if it were closer to the posted speed limit as most judges will suspend the charge if you can provide evidence that the speedometer was off more than 3%. Getting a lawyer for that speed is not worth it either. You were clearly in the wrong, but do like you said and sack up, you might have an understanding judge.

Bob_VT · 12-02-2008, 05:03 PM

Alot depends on your previous driving offenses too.

m911gt · 12-02-2008, 05:38 PM

If you know any mechanics...very well, you could talk to them and have them write you up an estimate saying your speedometer is faulty.

Loren · 12-02-2008, 06:18 PM

There are some new laws in FL as of October that you might want to be aware of. If you were going 96 in a 45, it won't be pretty.

My advice: know the law. Know what to expect. If you can afford the penalty, go for it. But, it could actually be cheaper to hire an attorney. Ticket + court costs + hike in insurance rates can add up to a LOT of money.

cali yaris · 12-02-2008, 06:28 PM

Here in CA, if you are a certain amount over the limit, it's a 2 point offense -- that means seriously higher insurance costs. If you can get at least one point off your record, it will be worth it to beg for mercy.

nemelek · 12-02-2008, 06:32 PM

I agree with Loren. Know what you are up against. At any rate it will be a learning experience for you. Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from bad judgement.

Sabretooth · 12-05-2008, 07:13 PM

Hey sorry for the long update..

Stats on the ticket:
I am 21 years old, my record has been clean for nearly 2 years.
I was clocked doing 96 in a 60, although I swore the speed limit was 65. If it dropped I do not know or it was not posted properly.

The cop that stopped me did not show me the radar gun with the actual reading, nor did he show me calibration papers. Also he was a a newer cop, due to I could tell by the officer ranking that was posted on the court summons. Then he also was using a note sheet on what to fill out on a summons.

*MAD DOG* · 12-06-2008, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabretooth

Hey sorry for the long update..

Stats on the ticket:
I am 21 years old, my record has been clean for nearly 2 years.
I was clocked doing 96 in a 60, although I swore the speed limit was 65. If it dropped I do not know or it was not posted properly.

The cop that stopped me did not show me the radar gun with the actual reading, nor did he show me calibration papers. Also he was a a newer cop, due to I could tell by the officer ranking that was posted on the court summons. Then he also was using a note sheet on what to fill out on a summons.

Based on that information If i was in your shoes i'd be going straight to an laywer, someone who works on these type of cases day in day out. I'm sure you can prove some reasonable doubt with that info. Did you have a passenger with you? Also did the cop have a partner or not?

My sister fought a charge of going through a red light and won with no conviction or fine. The cop who charged my sister stated his case, but his partner did not remember any of it and stated so on the stand under oath.

It came down to my sisters word vs the cops word and enough doubt had been cast to avoid a conviction and fine and loss of points. My sister represented herself too.

LtNoogie · 12-07-2008, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by camelll

I love how you just throw in that little jab about driving a sedan! The op drives a LB for the record. Typical mad dog statement.

This may sound like a NOOB question but, what is an op? I've seen it on other posts but wanst' inebriated enough to ask.

Shroomster · 12-07-2008, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LtNoogie

This may sound like a NOOB question but, what is an op? I've seen it on other posts but wanst' inebriated enough to ask.

lol op=Original Poster

Revsson · 12-06-2008, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabretooth

Hey sorry for the long update..

Stats on the ticket:
I am 21 years old, my record has been clean for nearly 2 years.
I was clocked doing 96 in a 60, although I swore the speed limit was 65. If it dropped I do not know or it was not posted properly.

The cop that stopped me did not show me the radar gun with the actual reading, nor did he show me calibration papers. Also he was a a newer cop, due to I could tell by the officer ranking that was posted on the court summons. Then he also was using a note sheet on what to fill out on a summons.

Just my opinion:
If it were me, I would go back to the area and take pictures of the speed
limit signs to back up your claim of 65 mph limit. In most localities, it is the
number of miles over the limit that determines the fine, which also affects
your insurance rates.

I don't think the cop has to show you the actual reading. As a matter of
fact, how would you know it was an actual reading of your car or another
car that he might have stopped before you? To my knowledge, there isn't
any sort of time/date stamp on the reading. I don't know if he has to show
you the calibration papers, but you might ask to see that in court, but it
may not make a difference. Some communities have dash cams that record
many things, but I doubt that they have it recording while doing radar checks.

Just because he was a newer or rookie cop doesn't mean he made a mistake.
Sometimes, the rookies are less lenient on minor offenses. You don't state
that you know you were speeding. If you were thinking you were going
70 or 75 mph, that would be different. If you know you were going way over
the limit, then I would just admit it and face the consequences. You could
spend money on a lawyer and possibly win or spend more money on insurance
costs. Yet, even with a lawyer, you could lose the case and have to pay the
lawyer and the fine and higher insurance premiums.

I know of someone that has a radar detector but not that he wants to speed.
He is so absent minded at times, that he doesn't pay attention to the signs.
With the radar detector, he is alerted to pay attention to his speedometer.
Yet, he has still been pulled over.

Maybe chalk it up to experience and pay more attention to the speed?

*jclo3313* · 12-06-2008, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabretooth

I figured best would be to plea no contest and make a statement saying that I sorry for my actions and I understand what I did. Man up and take my punishment.

No contest = guilty. All I can say is if you can hire a lawyer man. You are looking at a one year suspension and jail time. What county were you in? Who is the Judge hearing your case? Your insurance is going to take a hit no matter what, so hire a lawyer to try to plead your case down to something like "failure to yeild to a trafic device" or a similar moving violation. Any questions PM me dude and I might be able to help.

Kal-El · 12-06-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jclo3313

No contest = guilty. All I can say is if you can hire a lawyer man. You are looking at a one year suspension and jail time.

Revoked license yes, but definitely not jail time for going 96. If there's a state that would throw you in jail for doing 96, then that's outrageous. I see people go that fast almost everyday.

To the OP, can you tell us why you were going that fast? Late for something? Fun? Testing the Yaris? Just curious.

*jclo3313* · 12-07-2008, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-El

Revoked license yes, but definitely not jail time for going 96. If there's a state that would throw you in jail for doing 96, then that's outrageous. I see people go that fast almost everyday.

To the OP, can you tell us why you were going that fast? Late for something? Fun? Testing the Yaris? Just curious.

My buddy did an overnight in the county lockup for 30mph over. No kidding. That was in Brevard County Florida.

Bob_VT · 12-06-2008, 11:22 AM

The highly technical Drive by WIre system was jammed by some over-zelous radar operator!!

12-02-2008, 02:35 PM	#1
Sabretooth 37HSSV View User's Garage Drives: '11 Mazdaspeed 3 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St Cloud FL Posts: 1,395	I have a problem. I understand the lashback I will recieve for this, but I am looking for help. I got stopped by a local police that wasnt in my county. Was clocked doing 96mph. Now I have to go to court for it. They didnt issue me a ticket, but a mandatory court appearance. Now I have to ask, what is the best way to go about this. I figured best would be to plea no contest and make a statement saying that I sorry for my actions and I understand what I did. Man up and take my punishment. __________________ 07 Toyota Yaris Hatchback -sold- 11 Mazdaspeed 3 -SRI/TIP, 3 inch TBI, Custom FMIC, Tuned by Cobb Accessport, HKS ssq2 BOV, Upgraded HPFP- Clean stock look... Killer performance.

12-02-2008, 02:47 PM	#2
TinyGiant Tiny Giant Clothing View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Blazing Blue Yaris 3D LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rochester, NH Posts: 3,394	you could get a lawyer for it .. he could probably get the fine reduced and you will have to take a defensive driving course to keep the points down. you could try and get that option yourself... thats going to be a hefty fine.. how old are you? (not being wise here... depending on your age the judge might have different ideas for fines/punishment) __________________ Sold the yaris... rocking an 89 vw cabriolet now :)

12-02-2008, 02:56 PM	#3
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12-02-2008, 04:54 PM	#4
KCALB SIRAY それを吸ってください View User's Garage Drives: black sand lb Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 8,894	You are screwed. The only way you can avoid this is to raise a doubt to the judge that you were not going that fast. Doing so would require to much work on your end and not worth the time. You'd have a better chance if it were closer to the posted speed limit as most judges will suspend the charge if you can provide evidence that the speedometer was off more than 3%. Getting a lawyer for that speed is not worth it either. You were clearly in the wrong, but do like you said and sack up, you might have an understanding judge. __________________ http://lifesdailypimpslap.tumblr.com/#me My Build Last edited by KCALB SIRAY; 12-02-2008 at 05:05 PM.

12-02-2008, 05:03 PM	#5
Bob_VT View User's Garage Drives: 08 Yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,704	Alot depends on your previous driving offenses too. __________________ some people are little slinkies. . . . .they are really good for nothing. . . .but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. Come to the DARKSIDE..... We have candy

12-02-2008, 05:38 PM	#6
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12-02-2008, 06:18 PM	#7
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	There are some new laws in FL as of October that you might want to be aware of. If you were going 96 in a 45, it won't be pretty. My advice: know the law. Know what to expect. If you can afford the penalty, go for it. But, it could actually be cheaper to hire an attorney. Ticket + court costs + hike in insurance rates can add up to a LOT of money. __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

12-02-2008, 06:28 PM	#8
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	Here in CA, if you are a certain amount over the limit, it's a 2 point offense -- that means seriously higher insurance costs. If you can get at least one point off your record, it will be worth it to beg for mercy. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

12-02-2008, 06:32 PM	#9
nemelek DWEED Drives: 3DR 2008 Metorite Metalic Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,161	I agree with Loren. Know what you are up against. At any rate it will be a learning experience for you. Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from bad judgement. __________________ Making a decision without following it with an action is still a fantasy.

12-05-2008, 07:13 PM	#10
Sabretooth 37HSSV View User's Garage Drives: '11 Mazdaspeed 3 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St Cloud FL Posts: 1,395	Hey sorry for the long update.. Stats on the ticket: I am 21 years old, my record has been clean for nearly 2 years. I was clocked doing 96 in a 60, although I swore the speed limit was 65. If it dropped I do not know or it was not posted properly. The cop that stopped me did not show me the radar gun with the actual reading, nor did he show me calibration papers. Also he was a a newer cop, due to I could tell by the officer ranking that was posted on the court summons. Then he also was using a note sheet on what to fill out on a summons. __________________ 07 Toyota Yaris Hatchback -sold- 11 Mazdaspeed 3 -SRI/TIP, 3 inch TBI, Custom FMIC, Tuned by Cobb Accessport, HKS ssq2 BOV, Upgraded HPFP- Clean stock look... Killer performance.

12-06-2008, 11:22 AM	#18
Bob_VT View User's Garage Drives: 08 Yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,704	The highly technical Drive by WIre system was jammed by some over-zelous radar operator!! __________________ some people are little slinkies. . . . .they are really good for nothing. . . .but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. Come to the DARKSIDE..... We have candy

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