Carbon Offsets

[CKaelin]

https://www.terrapass.com/green-store/carbon-offsets/

Kinda cool.. Just did my holiday shopping!

[coheed]

So did you calculate your total foot print? I did, and damn....




edit: 17,623 lbs of CO2 a year. But that is with my truck, I'm sure it'll be less when I get the Yaris.

[CKaelin]

http://www.carboncounter.org/offset-...alculator.aspx

Just messing around with this site.

If I drive 16,000 miles in my YARIS in one year and average 40mpg I am creating 3.51 Metric Tons of CO2

Combined with my small apartment (estimated power use) and estimated 2 flights a year I am up to 7.16 Metric Tons..

hmmm

Little less on this other site

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12,000 lbs CO2 $71.40

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by CKaelin

https://www.terrapass.com/green-store/carbon-offsets/

Kinda cool.. Just did my holiday shopping!

An indulgence, in Roman Catholic theology, is the full or partial remission of temporal punishment due for sins which have already been forgiven. The indulgence is granted by the church after the sinner has confessed and received absolution.[1] The belief is that indulgences draw on the storehouse of merit acquired by Jesus' sacrifice and the virtues and penances of the saints.[2] They are granted for specific good works and prayers.[2]

The sixth-century Council of Epaon witnesses to the rise of the practice of replacing severe canonical penances with something new and milder. It became customary to commute penances to less demanding works, such as prayers, alms, fasts and even the payment of fixed sums of money depending on the various kinds of offences (tariff penances). By the tenth century some penances were not replaced but merely reduced in connection with pious donations, pilgrimages and similar meritorious works. Then, in the eleventh and twelfth centuries, the recognition of the value of these works began to become associated not so much with canonical penance but with remission of the temporal punishment due to sin.[29]

The later Middle Ages saw the growth of considerable abuses, such as the unrestricted sale of indulgences by professional "pardoners"[3] (quaestores in Latin), who were sent to collect contributions to the project. In many cases the preaching of these, out of ignorance or shrewdness, went far beyond dogmatic truth; some of them even dared to promise that the damned would be released from hell. Permission began to be granted to Catholic kings and princes, particularly on the occasion of Crusades, to retain for themselves a rather considerable part of the alms collected for the gaining of indulgences. The most well-known and debated question is the indulgence granted for building the new St. Peter's Basilica in Rome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence


Gene

[PetersRedYaris]

Good lord, Al Gore is raking in the dough.

So I quess I owe $166.45/year. To who???

Who's idea was to pay money just to live?

[cali yaris]

Since they don't count if you have a yard, with trees, or if you own undeveloped property, or if you ride your bike to work, or if you are aware and diligent about your purchases in terms of oil-based products..... this isn't relevant for me.

[CKaelin]

IMO it's very cool! The money is going towards renewable energy, not paying off your sins. (Religous BS) FLAME ON! It is really doing something to save the planet. Ontop of recyclying, hypermiling and conserving electricity. Every bit helps. The people I bought gifts for from this site will like the idea. It's gotta start somewhere...

I'm guessing those who posted not liking the idea didn't buy their YARIS for fuel economy.

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by CKaelin

IMO it's very cool! The money is going towards renewable energy, not paying off your sins. (Religous BS) FLAME ON! It is really doing something to save the planet. Ontop of recyclying, hypermiling and conserving electricity. Every bit helps. The people I bought gifts for from this site will like the idea. It's gotta start somewhere...

I'm guessing those who posted not liking the idea didn't buy their YARIS for fuel economy.

This one did buy a Yaris for fuel economy, and not as a gesture towards Gaia worship. That is precisely why I cited "indulgences".

You are completely free to invest in companies that serve renewable markets. You don't have to use a gimmick of "how much carbon you make" to make the investments. Just do it. It's your money, invest it as you value things.

The human raced lived on "renewable" energy for most of its history. Our lives tended to be short, nasty and brutish as a result. That is a historical fact, not some factoid that I produced out of Rush Limbaugh's drug addled bottom.

I work in the energy industry, not as a producer but as someone who helps to make use of energy more efficient. It's too damn bad that I am not at liberty to say who and exactly what I do, but rest assured that I do more to conserve fossil fuels in one day that most folks who buy Carbon Indulgences do in a year. That's not an exaggeration - the machinery that I make reduces the consumption of fossil fuels to the point that they pay for themselves in under a few years in terms of electricity costs.

I do not mind per sae this kind of exchange, but the idea of "Cap and Trade" enrages me to the point of near incoherence. That is in spite of the fact that such legislation will practically insure my future employment.

Gene

[PetersRedYaris]

Originally Posted by CKaelin

IMO it's very cool! The money is going towards renewable energy, not paying off your sins. (Religous BS) FLAME ON! It is really doing something to save the planet. Ontop of recyclying, hypermiling and conserving electricity. Every bit helps. The people I bought gifts for from this site will like the idea. It's gotta start somewhere...

I'm guessing those who posted not liking the idea didn't buy their YARIS for fuel economy.

Actually I did buy it for economy... I just have a problem with the people who are making off this scam, like Al Gore. I'm convinced he doesn't even care about the planet, but instead has realized what an enormous amount of money can be made off people’s fears. Watch out Bill Gates, your going to be passed up.

And it drives me crazy when people assume that just because your anti-carbon credits, your anti-save-the-environment too. Not all environemntal ideas are well thought out or well implemented...