Takata harness's installed pics

[eTiMaGo]

That confused be for some time too, but here's my understanding. It's a matter of leverage really, I think. Imagine you are moving forward and crash into something. With the harnesses attached to the floor, the belts will exert a downward pressure, while with a harness bar/roll cage attachment right behind the seat, they will pull straight back. In the worst-case scenario of the seatback breaking, the floor mounted harnesses could damage the occupant's spine, while a straight-back arrangement would be holding the occupant in place in a much safer way.

[mikenacarato]

in nasa and scca racing the harness (if equipped) must be between a 90 degree and 120 degree angle to the occupant i believe

[2006fronty]

Originally Posted by eTiMaGo

That confused be for some time too, but here's my understanding. It's a matter of leverage really, I think. Imagine you are moving forward and crash into something. With the harnesses attached to the floor, the belts will exert a downward pressure, while with a harness bar/roll cage attachment right behind the seat, they will pull straight back. In the worst-case scenario of the seatback breaking, the floor mounted harnesses could damage the occupant's spine, while a straight-back arrangement would be holding the occupant in place in a much safer way.

Exactly^^^^^^^

Personally I don't see the point of running harnesses in a uncaged car, the design on the Takata cam locks look pretty nifty though.

[Tamago]

those are the limitations of where your harness should be. (no lower than 20deg from parallel to shoulders)

don't get me wrong, i'm not bashing the setup, i've rocked out the floor mounted harnesses before too, but only at autoX where speeds don't exceed 75mph.. then i found an old piece of stainless tube and built a ghetto harnessbar..

so, how many of you would not mind losing their back seats in order to have a harness bar?

[blacksandiegovitz]

Originally Posted by Tamago

those are the limitations of where your harness should be. (no lower than 20deg from parallel to shoulders)

don't get me wrong, i'm not bashing the setup, i've rocked out the floor mounted harnesses before too, but only at autoX where speeds don't exceed 75mph.. then i found an old piece of stainless tube and built a ghetto harnessbar..

so, how many of you would not mind losing their back seats in order to have a harness bar?

Yeah , Its all good man . As of now there is no harness bar for sale , so really no other way to mount these(unless you make a one off bar like you did) So I think Somebody needs to jump on this ???

[eTiMaGo]

there was a member, turboyaris, who was working on it, there's a thread int he performance section I believe...

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by blacksandiegovitz

Yeah , Its all good man . As of now there is no harness bar for sale , so really no other way to mount these(unless you make a one off bar like you did) So I think Somebody needs to jump on this ???

it'll get jumped on when 10 people show interest and put 50% down lol.. after my hub spacer fiasco on this forum i'm not really interested in building parts for people who complain so much.

[ChinoCharles]

How much are you talking for a harness bar? I have no rear seats. Is this a $75 venture or a $250 venture.

[cali yaris]

turboyaris' bars will be in the $250 range. He says he's close to being done. There are quite a few of us that don't have rear seats.

[ChinoCharles]

Aw crap. One day. Right now, I'm lucky if I can afford a tow hook. Actually, who am I kidding... I can't!

[Crandall]

The less piratical a car becomes makes it even cooler in my opinion.

What you have there Sir, is cool :D

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

turboyaris' bars will be in the $250 range. He says he's close to being done. There are quite a few of us that don't have rear seats.

i won't step on his toes :) will wait to see his progress

[ChinoCharles]

The less piratical a car becomes make it even cooler in my opinion.

Haha! Never heard it put that way, but so true, so true.

Blacksand... your car is about as practical as an El Camino with a hot tub in the back, hence why its so freekin' awesome.

[blacksandiegovitz]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Haha! Never heard it put that way, but so true, so true.

Blacksand... your car is about as practical as an El Camino with a hot tub in the back, hence why its so freekin' awesome.

You know it really is I can't even go surfing in this car now cause the board doesn't fit with with the x-brace in the back and I don't want to pack my carpets full of sand like my last car , thats pretty much the only quam I have with the car . After I do a few car shows I'm installing a thule board/bike rack on the roof , that will solve the surfboard problem.

[cali yaris]

yeah!! c'mon up we'll hit some local Malibu spots -- I longboard only FYI

[mikenacarato]

Originally Posted by blacksandiegovitz

You know it really is I can't even go surfing in this car now cause the board doesn't fit with with the x-brace in the back and I don't want to pack my carpets full of sand like my last car , thats pretty much the only quam I have with the car . After I do a few car shows I'm installing a thule board/bike rack on the roof , that will solve the surfboard problem.

racks ftw!!!

[blacksandiegovitz]

Originally Posted by mikenacarato

racks ftw!!!

I know huh , everyday I wish I had a thule system to just throw on a board and hit up the cliffs or the bmx and go ride at the local race track . I sold my dang 10' longboard cause I had no way to get it to the beach with the yaris lol. Like I said I just want to show the car at a couple big jdm shows/so cal hin's , then Its time for surfing everyday/auto-x on the weekends and really get some use out of this sweet lil' car .

[blacksandiegovitz]

Originally Posted by kimona

Very nice setup. Love the turquoise. Like the Taiwan "s" on the hatch.

Thanks man , they're Takata GREEN btw Lol