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[DFA]

Why is heavy modern music looked down upon, to the extent of calling it's listeners culturally uninterested?
I love metal music and I pretty much grew up listening to it. I also grew up listening to classical music and I'm currently a (non-professional) musician.

I love Tool, yet Gustav Mahler's awesomeness makes my privates tingle. Am I some sort of musical hypocrite?

edit: I just read this finished post and I want to make clear that I'm not trying to start a fight, it's just something that really ticked off my curiosity.

[supmet]

Originally Posted by DFA

Why is heavy modern music looked down upon, to the extent of calling it's listeners culturally uninterested?
I love metal music and I pretty much grew up listening to it. I also grew up listening to classical music and I'm currently a (non-professional) musician.

I love Tool, yet Gustav Mahler's awesomeness makes my privates tingle. Am I some sort of musical hypocrite?

edit: I just read this finished post and I want to make clear that I'm not trying to start a fight, it's just something that really ticked off my curiosity.

I feel you on this one.. Playing piano for 10 years and listening to metal will do that to ya :D

I think people who cast aside whole genres of music are either just trying to seem cultured, or have no idea what music is..

Until you can hear the beauty in classical, metal, jazz, country, rap, techno, blues, rock, punk, folk, tribal - you are just listening to what you heard on the radio, or at your friends house, or in your moms car as a kid.


Anyways, with that said,

Tchaikovsky > Herman Li > Vivaldi (vivaldi is still pretty good though :D)

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by supmet

Until you can hear the beauty in classical, metal, jazz, country, rap, techno, blues, rock, punk, folk, tribal - you are just listening to what you heard on the radio, or at your friends house, or in your moms car as a kid.

Takes time and effort to learn the inner language of any art form.

There is also the cultural aspect. A good friend of mine sneers at "Rock and Rollers", "Headbangers" and "drug addled rock 'n roll listening perverts" yet he tunes into Country Music stations that offer rehashes of 60s Rock 'n Roll. We agree to disagree about music....

Listen to the Monkees's "Stepping Stone" and Aaren Tippin's "Working Man's PhD". They're very close.

Gene

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by DFA

Why is heavy modern music looked down upon, to the extent of calling it's listeners culturally uninterested?

Used to be an old Roman expression - "In matters of taste there is no dispute".

Maybe it's the amount of time and talent that a lot of "heavy" modern music takes to play? Some rock and roll is very difficult musically, while other stuff is more theatrics, makeup or gimmicks. You can hear it in the performance.

The band, "Tool", for example, has a lot of talent. Their drummer is taking music lessons for the Tablas. A guy who is established who still wants to grow musically gets a lot of respect from me.

"Mudvane", probably a lot less talent and more showmanship. Their stuff isn't bad but it's not as good to me as Tool. KISS is another good example of showmanship. Even kids with limited musical training can play a KISS song.

Music means many things to many people. To some it's a form of craftsmanship, and they want it to be of "good quality" or to show talent. Sad to say, some heavy metal is not as much talent as technique (limited kinds of talent) or showmanship.

Gene