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YarisOwnersDad · 04-19-2009, 09:55 PM

It's real simple.

John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

2 Corinthians 5:21

For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Jesus, the Son of God, came into this world and lived a perfect, sinless life. He lived the sinless life that one would be required to live in order to be acceptable to God by one's own merits and by one's own righteousness.

No one else has ever lived that sinless life, and no one else ever will.

Romans 3:23

For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

When Jesus died on the Cross, He did not die for His own sins, because He had no sin. He took upon Himself our sins and paid the price for them. When we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior, we accept what He did for us on Calvary. Our sins are no longer imputed to us, rather the Righteousness of God is imputed to us.

Romans 4:6-8

Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

There is but one way to be acceptable to God, and that is through His Son, Jesus Christ.

John 14:6

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Now what God's word said above has nothing to do with being a Catholic, a Baptist, a Methodist, or whatever.

There is not a religion in the world that will make you right with God. There are not enough "good things" you could do to earn your way to Heaven. What you do with Jesus is the only thing that matters. Pilate washed his hands of Jesus. The Roman guards beat Him, spit on Him, and nailed Him to the Cross. The non-believing Jews mocked Him. But the thief on the cross beside Him simply asked Him to remember him when He came into His kingdom.

Luke 23:42:

And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

The thief believed that Jesus was who He said He was. The thief put his trust in Jesus and called Him Lord.

The thief's soul was saved that very moment.

God bless.

Tom

jambo101 · 04-19-2009, 10:12 PM

Speaking of religion George Carlin has a few things to say about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

allspeed · 04-20-2009, 12:32 AM

my belifes are God forgives all sinner and god said to follow the 10 rules wich are the 10 comandment everybody now write from wrong you make your own path you cant lie to god the choice is your so the person doing wrong and that person ask god to forgive them god allways will let say the person doing nothin wrong and bad stuff but does not except him will go down so put it this way when you die you will be juged but while you still have life you have time everybody now about god so when you die you walk up to him he will say i send you that person that person and you will be juged jesus died on the cross so that whe can be forgiven for are sin

Kaotic Lazagna · 04-20-2009, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YarisOwnersDad

It's real simple.

John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

2 Corinthians 5:21

For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Jesus, the Son of God, came into this world and lived a perfect, sinless life. He lived the sinless life that one would be required to live in order to be acceptable to God by one's own merits and by one's own righteousness.

No one else has ever lived that sinless life, and no one else ever will.

Romans 3:23

For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

When Jesus died on the Cross, He did not die for His own sins, because He had no sin. He took upon Himself our sins and paid the price for them. When we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior, we accept what He did for us on Calvary. Our sins are no longer imputed to us, rather the Righteousness of God is imputed to us.

Romans 4:6-8

Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

There is but one way to be acceptable to God, and that is through His Son, Jesus Christ.

John 14:6

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Now what God's word said above has nothing to do with being a Catholic, a Baptist, a Methodist, or whatever.

There is not a religion in the world that will make you right with God. There are not enough "good things" you could do to earn your way to Heaven. What you do with Jesus is the only thing that matters. Pilate washed his hands of Jesus. The Roman guards beat Him, spit on Him, and nailed Him to the Cross. The non-believing Jews mocked Him. But the thief on the cross beside Him simply asked Him to remember him when He came into His kingdom.

Luke 23:42:

And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

The thief believed that Jesus was who He said He was. The thief put his trust in Jesus and called Him Lord.

The thief's soul was saved that very moment.

God bless.

Tom

THANK YOU, THANK YOU! Exact location of quotes/verses. I will tell this to my gf the next time she talks to me about the Bible (I'm expecting that to be tomorrow since she loves to talk to me about it).

Malaya1221 · 04-19-2009, 10:08 PM

there you go kl, problem solved!

Loren · 04-19-2009, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

I find it extremely hard to believe that a person who is genuinely good, but does not necessarily follow all of the Commandments/the Bible will not get into Heaven; yet, let's take a "bad" person (what ever that may be) that follows the Commandments/Bible; does that mean that that person has a better chance of getting into Heaven than the genuinely good person?

Okay, here's a quick stab...

I don't believe that there is a god (or a God, no offense) or a heaven, but I prefer to think of myself as a devout agnostic rather than an atheist. Why? Because I don't "know", which is the very definition of agnosticism. I'm really, really close to being an atheist, though.

That said, if there were a god who created the universe and ME, then that god gave me the freedom of thought to come to my own conclusions based on my own personal observations, NOT on the writings of men who have been dead for thousands of years (and who's words have been translated and revised to suit the political ideals of kings and churches over the years), or on the preaching of other men who are convinced that these writings are "the word of god" and that THEIR interpretation of these texts are correct. If such a god exists and there is a heaven waiting for us, I would think that regardless of my lack of faith, being a generally "good" person, good ol' St. Peter would open the gates for me.

FWIW, I was raised Southern Baptist. I think I'm a better "Christian" than most Christians that I know, in spite of the fact that I do not believe. Think about that for a moment.

1NZYaris1 · 04-19-2009, 11:24 PM

I was not going to make any comment at all , but so far there's what
four or five pages here , and for the first time in a long time ,
everyone is playing nice , and respecting each other view's .
the other thing i will say is That IF there is a GOD he's got one sick
sense of humor.

Kaotic Lazagna · 04-20-2009, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1NZYaris1

I was not going to make any comment at all , but so far there's what
four or five pages here , and for the first time in a long time ,
everyone is playing nice , and respecting each other view's .
the other thing i will say is That IF there is a GOD he's got one sick
sense of humor.

Kaotic Lazagna · 04-20-2009, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loren

Okay, here's a quick stab...

I don't believe that there is a god (or a God, no offense) or a heaven, but I prefer to think of myself as a devout agnostic rather than an atheist. Why? Because I don't "know", which is the very definition of agnosticism. I'm really, really close to being an atheist, though.

That said, if there were a god who created the universe and ME, then that god gave me the freedom of thought to come to my own conclusions based on my own personal observations, NOT on the writings of men who have been dead for thousands of years (and who's words have been translated and revised to suit the political ideals of kings and churches over the years), or on the preaching of other men who are convinced that these writings are "the word of god" and that THEIR interpretation of these texts are correct. If such a god exists and there is a heaven waiting for us, I would think that regardless of my lack of faith, being a generally "good" person, good ol' St. Peter would open the gates for me.

FWIW, I was raised Southern Baptist. I think I'm a better "Christian" than most Christians that I know, in spite of the fact that I do not believe. Think about that for a moment.

That's what my aforementioned friend says too. And I'm on your boat about generally being a good person.

*tomato* · 04-20-2009, 12:43 AM

PS> Just to clarify, I didn't mean you should split with your GF based on differences of opinion in religion, but what gives me a red flag is the lack of tolerance on her end for your beliefs. Good luck.

Kaotic Lazagna · 04-20-2009, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PK198105

The Bible is just a collection of scriptures that were hand picked by the church and only the scriptures that served the purposes of the Church. there are scriptures that didn't make the cut because they were not in line with the philosophy of the Church

I think that's why my gf believes that Catholicism is the "anti-Christ".

Kaotic Lazagna · 04-21-2009, 04:45 AM

************************************ SHE WON'T STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kaotic Lazagna · 04-21-2009, 04:45 AM

I AM THIS CLOSE TO CALLING IT QUITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why can she not just fucking respect the fact that I do not necessarily believe in the Bible!

Kaotic Lazagna · 04-21-2009, 04:46 AM

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She is seriously going to make me have a fucking breakdown!

Kaotic Lazagna · 04-21-2009, 04:48 AM

She is saying just because I believe in Jesus, I have to believe the Bible.

Kaotic Lazagna · 04-21-2009, 05:10 AM

And the whole Sabbath thing, you know, not doing anything but resting and reading the Bible, which the SDA believe it to be from Friday night to Saturday night...so are they telling me that nurses, doctors, police, firemen, etc should not work those days, and the ones that are working those days are being sinners?

One of the 10 Commandments involves Sabbath ("Remember the Sabbath to keep it holy"), but there are multiple definitions of Sabbath. For SDA, it's Fri-Sat, for Catholics, it's Sunday.

Now I do my best to obey the 10 Commandments, yet live my life.

Do not worship any other gods besides me.
Okay, I don't believe in any other God.

Do not make idols of any kind
I don't have any idols, per se. I have a scapular around my neck, and there is a crucifix at my church that I kneel to, but I am not idolizing either of these. I simply find God in these, which I don't see it as idolizing the item, but God instead.

Do not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
I'm changing my ways now, and trying my hardest to not use God's name in vain (no more "Oh my God" statements.

Remember to observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
See top.

Honor your father and mother.
I do this on a daily basis.

Do not murder.
I'm not going postal on anyone.

Do not commit adultery.
Nope, don't go around having sex.

Do not steal.
I'm not pulling any Winona's.

Do not testify falsely against your neighbor.
Don't do this either.

Do not covet your neighbor’s house.
This is something that's hard, since I would like to have items that other people have, but in no way am I truly jealous of them for having the said item.

So, how am I a bad person?

jambo101 · 04-21-2009, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

So, how am I a bad person?

How about thou shall not make 10 separate threads in 10 minutes when one thread will suffice.

Kaotic Lazagna · 04-21-2009, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo101

How about thou shall not make 10 separate threads in 10 minutes when one thread will suffice.

How is this relevant, and what 10 threads are you talking about?

Quote:

Originally Posted by PK198105

there is only one thread...and its his. stop whining

Thank you Pavel.

04-20-2009, 12:32 AM	#3
allspeed I've made a post! View User's Garage Drives: yaris hatchback Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ct Posts: 1	cristian my belifes are God forgives all sinner and god said to follow the 10 rules wich are the 10 comandment everybody now write from wrong you make your own path you cant lie to god the choice is your so the person doing wrong and that person ask god to forgive them god allways will let say the person doing nothin wrong and bad stuff but does not except him will go down so put it this way when you die you will be juged but while you still have life you have time everybody now about god so when you die you walk up to him he will say i send you that person that person and you will be juged jesus died on the cross so that whe can be forgiven for are sin

04-19-2009, 11:24 PM	#7
1NZYaris1 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,566	I was not going to make any comment at all , but so far there's what four or five pages here , and for the first time in a long time , everyone is playing nice , and respecting each other view's . the other thing i will say is That IF there is a GOD he's got one sick sense of humor. __________________ http://www.microimageonline.com/forums/index.php

04-20-2009, 12:43 AM	#10
tomato Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 2DR LB 07, MT, Abs. Red Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 5,155	PS> Just to clarify, I didn't mean you should split with your GF based on differences of opinion in religion, but what gives me a red flag is the lack of tolerance on her end for your beliefs. Good luck. __________________ Follow Bamboo the YarisWorld Traveler here

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04-19-2009, 09:55 PM	#1
YarisOwnersDad Is now a Corolla S Owner View User's Garage Drives: 2010 Corolla S Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Western Kentucky Posts: 460	It's real simple. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. Jesus, the Son of God, came into this world and lived a perfect, sinless life. He lived the sinless life that one would be required to live in order to be acceptable to God by one's own merits and by one's own righteousness. No one else has ever lived that sinless life, and no one else ever will. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. When Jesus died on the Cross, He did not die for His own sins, because He had no sin. He took upon Himself our sins and paid the price for them. When we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior, we accept what He did for us on Calvary. Our sins are no longer imputed to us, rather the Righteousness of God is imputed to us. Romans 4:6-8 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. There is but one way to be acceptable to God, and that is through His Son, Jesus Christ. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Now what God's word said above has nothing to do with being a Catholic, a Baptist, a Methodist, or whatever. There is not a religion in the world that will make you right with God. There are not enough "good things" you could do to earn your way to Heaven. What you do with Jesus is the only thing that matters. Pilate washed his hands of Jesus. The Roman guards beat Him, spit on Him, and nailed Him to the Cross. The non-believing Jews mocked Him. But the thief on the cross beside Him simply asked Him to remember him when He came into His kingdom. Luke 23:42: And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. The thief believed that Jesus was who He said He was. The thief put his trust in Jesus and called Him Lord. The thief's soul was saved that very moment. God bless. Tom

04-19-2009, 10:12 PM	#2
jambo101 Drives: yaris 08 sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 1,286	Speaking of religion George Carlin has a few things to say about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

04-19-2009, 10:08 PM	#5
Malaya1221 super duper M*******TOR Drives: 2007 jahPANIS egg(Sarao Phil) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Torrance, Ca Posts: 1,011	there you go kl, problem solved!

04-21-2009, 04:45 AM	#12
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	************************************ SHE WON'T STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

04-21-2009, 04:46 AM	#14
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She is seriously going to make me have a fucking breakdown!

04-21-2009, 04:48 AM	#15
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	She is saying just because I believe in Jesus, I have to believe the Bible.

04-21-2009, 05:10 AM	#16
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	And the whole Sabbath thing, you know, not doing anything but resting and reading the Bible, which the SDA believe it to be from Friday night to Saturday night...so are they telling me that nurses, doctors, police, firemen, etc should not work those days, and the ones that are working those days are being sinners? One of the 10 Commandments involves Sabbath ("Remember the Sabbath to keep it holy"), but there are multiple definitions of Sabbath. For SDA, it's Fri-Sat, for Catholics, it's Sunday. Now I do my best to obey the 10 Commandments, yet live my life. Do not worship any other gods besides me. Okay, I don't believe in any other God. Do not make idols of any kind I don't have any idols, per se. I have a scapular around my neck, and there is a crucifix at my church that I kneel to, but I am not idolizing either of these. I simply find God in these, which I don't see it as idolizing the item, but God instead. Do not misuse the name of the Lord your God. I'm changing my ways now, and trying my hardest to not use God's name in vain (no more "Oh my God" statements. Remember to observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. See top. Honor your father and mother. I do this on a daily basis. Do not murder. I'm not going postal on anyone. Do not commit adultery. Nope, don't go around having sex. Do not steal. I'm not pulling any Winona's. Do not testify falsely against your neighbor. Don't do this either. Do not covet your neighbor’s house. This is something that's hard, since I would like to have items that other people have, but in no way am I truly jealous of them for having the said item. So, how am I a bad person?