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Kaotic Lazagna · 06-24-2009, 03:25 AM

What I've learned from SDA's and their bible studies are (at least with the church my ex/gf working things out with): 1. It's a religion dedicated to bashing Catholicism. Every bible study that I've went to always bashed on it, it's annoying. 2. My ex's sis asked their church leader about the part in the bible where the Christians went to Jerico (I think) and slaughtered the people (non-Christians) there; and how killing is against the bible, and the leader said that it was okay because "God wants everyone in the world to hear his world and doesn't want anyone in their way, so it's right to destroy those people."

hmmm, seems like the more I go to these bible studies, the more I dislike SDA's. I'm trying my best to respect them, but they're really pushing it. If they're trying to convert me, they're doing a lousy job and the exact opposite. Why would I want to go to a religion who is intolerant of other religions, and one that sees killing as being "okay".

silver_echo · 06-24-2009, 03:27 AM

freakin' holy war batman...

Kaotic Lazagna · 06-24-2009, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by silver_echo

freakin' holy war batman...

LMAO. This really does worry me. It reminds me of Hitler and the slaughtering of the Jews.

SilverBack · 06-24-2009, 03:33 AM

Sounds like every religion in the world to me. IMO religion is just an excuse via politics to start wars around the world and strike delusional fear that doesn't exist.

Go Atheist, you'll be alot happier. Take it from someone who ditched religion years ago, it works

Kaotic Lazagna · 06-24-2009, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by k r a y z e e . j o j o

Sounds like every religion in the world to me. IMO religion is just an excuse via politics to start wars around the world and strike delusional fear that doesn't exist.

Go Atheist, you'll be alot happier. Take it from someone who ditched religion years ago, it works

Because of all of this, I now don't believe in religion, but I do believe in God. So that makes me an agnostic.

1NZYaris1 · 06-24-2009, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Because of all of this, I now don't believe in religion, but I do believe in God. So that makes me an agnostic.

No it just makes you human ,

Kaotic Lazagna · 06-24-2009, 04:05 AM

Thank you. hehehe.

gokartride · 06-24-2009, 10:12 AM

Interfacing with formal religious groups these days can be very tricky. The paradox is that at the same time, much can be found within religious thought that is very meaningful and relevant and profound. This is at the heart or core of religion, however, and there is much chatter to get past. Sad but true.....but it is there, and well worth finding, and can be done. It's easier forget the whole thing and deny the relevancy of faith altogether, but that's throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and in the end I think that is an unacceptible impoverishment.

MadMax · 06-24-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Because of all of this, I now don't believe in religion, but I do believe in God. So that makes me an agnostic.

Errrr...not quite. An agnostic is "One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God; 2. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism."

An agnostic doesn't necessarily believe there is a God, nor do they believe there isn't a God. It is a "wait and see" position.

You have faith, but not religion; and there is nothing wrong with that. Religion is a man-made institution that some felt was necessary to believe, you are simply cutting out the middleman!

Tamago · 06-24-2009, 11:08 AM

sounds like your GF ran into the wrong SDA's. there's always bad apples in religion.

and yes, most of the shit in the world traces back directly to the roman catholic church, sadly.

Loren · 06-24-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Because of all of this, I now don't believe in religion, but I do believe in God. So that makes me an agnostic.

If you believe in a god, you're not agnostic. An agnostic, by definition, is one who does not KNOW whether or or not a god exists.

Edit: What Max said.

staticorex · 06-24-2009, 11:23 AM

^ still, we got his point. :p

Tamago · 06-24-2009, 11:30 AM

what does an dyslexic agnostic insomniac to at night?

gokartride · 06-24-2009, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamago

most of the shit in the world traces back directly to the roman catholic church, sadly.

I prefer to think abuse of power and overinflated egos is more to blame. This happen in many places.

Tamago · 06-24-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gokartride

I prefer to think abuse of power and overinflated egos is more to blame. This happen in many places.

yup. so religion is to blame. who cares which fingers get pointed at which churches?

Tamago · 06-24-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamago

what does an dyslexic agnostic insomniac to at night?

he lies in bed sleepless wondering if there really is a dog

TLyttle · 06-24-2009, 01:16 PM

These guys keep coming around to my place doing "God's Work", and sometimes they are just too goofy. Most of them are using religion as a crutch to help them through their sorry lives; beer works just as well.

My buddy just tells them he's Wiccan, and very happy with the lack of conflict his religion offers. They just buzz off...

TinyGiant · 06-24-2009, 01:38 PM

religion is what man basically does to relate with God. trusting in God and being religious can and usually are two different things.. Religion is more or less ritual. one thing Jesus spoke against was the mundane ritual relation they had with God. God wants us to have freedom in Christ and salvation.. he wants genuine connections not ritual.

here is a little useful something i found online a few min ago that can sorta outline that.(note i havent read any other stuff on this site so i dont know what you will find. but this seemed pretty spot on)

http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org...k/religion.htm

06-24-2009, 03:25 AM	#1
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	What I've Learned From... What I've learned from SDA's and their bible studies are (at least with the church my ex/gf working things out with): 1. It's a religion dedicated to bashing Catholicism. Every bible study that I've went to always bashed on it, it's annoying. 2. My ex's sis asked their church leader about the part in the bible where the Christians went to Jerico (I think) and slaughtered the people (non-Christians) there; and how killing is against the bible, and the leader said that it was okay because "God wants everyone in the world to hear his world and doesn't want anyone in their way, so it's right to destroy those people." hmmm, seems like the more I go to these bible studies, the more I dislike SDA's. I'm trying my best to respect them, but they're really pushing it. If they're trying to convert me, they're doing a lousy job and the exact opposite. Why would I want to go to a religion who is intolerant of other religions, and one that sees killing as being "okay".

06-24-2009, 03:27 AM	#2
silver_echo ekodrvr View User's Garage Drives: 2002 white subaru impreza wrx Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 776	freakin' holy war batman... __________________ if you want to see my plans for this car, check out here... http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3154316 i like this smiley...

06-24-2009, 03:33 AM	#4
SilverBack Joey View User's Garage Drives: '14 Scion xD 5-speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: El Monte, Ca Posts: 3,529	Sounds like every religion in the world to me. IMO religion is just an excuse via politics to start wars around the world and strike delusional fear that doesn't exist. Go Atheist, you'll be alot happier. Take it from someone who ditched religion years ago, it works __________________ Formerly owned Met-Met. '07 Yaris LB 5-speed. A forum post should be like a skirt: Long enough to cover the subject but short enough to keep things interesting. "I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem." -Hank Hill

06-24-2009, 11:23 AM	#12
staticorex View User's Garage Drives: Sc'd Yaris Sedan. Join Date: May 2007 Location: civilwar town. Posts: 660	^ still, we got his point. :p __________________ Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum.

06-24-2009, 01:38 PM	#18
TinyGiant Tiny Giant Clothing View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Blazing Blue Yaris 3D LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rochester, NH Posts: 3,394	religion is what man basically does to relate with God. trusting in God and being religious can and usually are two different things.. Religion is more or less ritual. one thing Jesus spoke against was the mundane ritual relation they had with God. God wants us to have freedom in Christ and salvation.. he wants genuine connections not ritual. here is a little useful something i found online a few min ago that can sorta outline that.(note i havent read any other stuff on this site so i dont know what you will find. but this seemed pretty spot on) http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org...k/religion.htm __________________ Sold the yaris... rocking an 89 vw cabriolet now :)

06-24-2009, 04:05 AM	#7
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	Thank you. hehehe.

06-24-2009, 10:12 AM	#8
gokartride Drives: 2009 Yaris 3-Door Liftback Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 213	Interfacing with formal religious groups these days can be very tricky. The paradox is that at the same time, much can be found within religious thought that is very meaningful and relevant and profound. This is at the heart or core of religion, however, and there is much chatter to get past. Sad but true.....but it is there, and well worth finding, and can be done. It's easier forget the whole thing and deny the relevancy of faith altogether, but that's throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and in the end I think that is an unacceptible impoverishment.

06-24-2009, 01:16 PM	#17
TLyttle Drives: 07 Yaris sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Keremeos BC Posts: 986	These guys keep coming around to my place doing "God's Work", and sometimes they are just too goofy. Most of them are using religion as a crutch to help them through their sorry lives; beer works just as well. My buddy just tells them he's Wiccan, and very happy with the lack of conflict his religion offers. They just buzz off...

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