What I've Learned From...

[TinyGiant]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

I've always found your posts in my threads to be well said. But the things you and I believe in, SDA's refuse to believe in. They HAVE to believe in the bible, which brings me to think...

...in the bible, slavery is an okay thing. So, that means my ex's church leader should be enslaved? I'm sorry, but there are too many things that contradict in the bible for me to believe in it.

Also, on another note, the bible and/or SDA's say that the world's knowledge means nothing to God, correct? So tell me why in one of the their church meetings, they mention how scientists who conducted scientific research have found that breakfast is something needed by humans to stay healthy? I'm sorry, but didn't they just tell me that the world's knowledge is incorrect and means nothing? So why use science in their lectures?

Again, too many things wrong.


Furthermore, the last bible study, the leader mentions vines and wine, and says "what do you think of when you hear vines? Grapes." Ummm, no, I was actually thinking of plants that grow on walls, sticks, etc, like golden honeysuckles.

I hate it how their leader says that the bible interprets itself, but and uses another verse to interpret another verse, but uses his opinions and stuff (like that grape vine) on the verse that's interpreting the other. Umm, so that's not the bible interpreting itself, it's him that is.

i wish you lived around here. some friends of mine and I get together weekly and have open discussion about this sort of stuff .. we do it at a local resturant and its really a blast to discuss all sorts of stuff. a few weeks back we talked about the validity of scripture .. and it was very interesting people brought up the fact that the books of the bible were chosen by a group.. it wasnt like they chose from a hat .. but it led some people to question what if some books were left out? granted there are books and writings that defintely dont belong in the bible .. lol but it was interesting to talk about .. they also mentioned that the first new testament writings they have found date to like 150 ad or something .. so they werent the writings of the actual apostles.. but their accounts passed down and recorded later on. some of which it says is the actual words.. some maybe not

but God's ultimate strength and power would easily beable to give us what he wants to have in the bible. I believe that the scripture wouldnt have survived what it has been subject to and not be valid.