For you Hypermilers and other MPG h4xx0rz

[TheJames]

Originally Posted by 47_MasoN_47

Yeah I mean I'm not the most patient with people who hesitate at green lights or slow down to 2mph to go around a turn. It is annoying when people expect me to redline every time I'm starting off though. I had a guy behind me the other day that kept honking at me wanting me to turn out in front of traffic. There was twice I could have made it but I'm sure I would have had to get up in the 3400 RPM range to avoid being smashed. I don't see the use in wasting that much gas or risking the personal safety of my fiance or myself either one.

Maybe I should get a bumper sticker that says "I'm hypermiling...you can wait."

there's no need to hold up traffic so you don't have to get over 3400 rpm. if there's someone behind you, and you can pull out without blowing your motor, do it. hypermile when it doesn't inconvenience everyone else. sitting 2 wide on a four lane=asshole.... not going when the light turns green=asshold.... not pulling out when you can clearly make it but don't want to rev over 3400 when people, who could be in a serious hurry are behind you=well... i'm not going to call you an asshole for that post but thats very inconsiderate.

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by TheJames

if there's someone behind you, and you can pull out without blowing your motor, do it.

Negative. Unless you are some form of emergency worker on their way to an emergency, in which case you would have some form of audio-visual signals to let me know such, then you have absolutely no good reason to be in that much of a hurry. It's just your ego talking, and egos aren't real.

We do not live on a race track.

[supmet]

Originally Posted by BailOut

Negative. Unless you are some form of emergency worker on their way to an emergency, in which case you would have some form of audio-visual signals to let me know such, then you have absolutely no good reason to be in that much of a hurry. It's just your ego talking, and egos aren't real.

We do not live on a race track.

Where do you draw the line then? Being the uber-est hypermiler in the world, I refuse to rev over 1200 rpm. I believe this is the best combination of highest mpg + minimal engine wear. Unfortunately, due to my strict self imposed safety regulations, I need a 2 mile opening or no cars in view to pull out safely. Should the people at the grocery store have to wait 15 minutes or longer to pull out of a parking lot, just because of my beliefs?

Besides that, its not just ego. Waiting too long to pull out can create bottlenecks behind you, leading to more accidents and a less safe driving environment for many people, not just the one behind you honking.

As others have said, on multiple lane roads, you can drive 1 mph for all I care, but if you are at the front of a one lane land train going unreasonably slow, you probably deserve the sodas and other random debris thrown at you as people pass you.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by BailOut

Negative. Unless you are some form of emergency worker on their way to an emergency, in which case you would have some form of audio-visual signals to let me know such, then you have absolutely no good reason to be in that much of a hurry. It's just your ego talking, and egos aren't real.

We do not live on a race track.

Reality check time...probably 98%ish of the driving population doesn't give a skunk's scrotum about hypermiling driving techniques, they just want to get where they need to be, fast. They don't have time to play games.

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Reality check time...probably 98%ish of the driving population doesn't give a skunk's scrotum about hypermiling driving techniques, they just want to get where they need to be, fast.

Take a dose of reality yourself... I don't care that they don't care, and their wants do not trump my own. Get over it.

[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by BailOut

Take a dose of reality yourself... I don't care that they don't care, and their wants do not trump my own. Get over it.

i'm one of the most understanding and open minded people out there but i gotta be honest and say that i think you are a bit over the top with your perspective...if you could only read some of your posts on this forum, you'd see why you get some of the feedback you do...i've seen you post next to irrelevant posts in threads that had nothing to do with your response, almost as an undercover way to continue to promote your next-to-nazi hypermile tactics...why you didn't buy a hybrid or, better yet, ride a motorcycle or, hey, i got an idea, why don't you ride a bicycle since you're never in that much of a hurry LOL...no disrespect intended, please don't take this as a personal attack because i respect a lot of the awesome information you've contributed to this forum with but, i wish you could look at some of your own posts objectively and you'd see why you get the response you do sometimes (although i don't think you care)...you realize most everyone on this forum drives a gas sipper and there are people putting around out there in hummers and triton v10's, right?...if it's really not about ego's, then why do you take such pride in being the king of hypermilers?...unfortunately, if i've learned anything about the way you carry yourself on here, i'm sure you're just going to try and disect my post, piece by piece, in an effort to out logic me, rather than accept a different perspective and 'get over it' lol...

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

why you didn't buy a hybrid

There are several reasons I did not buy a hybrid. They are expensive (both to build and to buy), they suck at hill climbing (I commute over a mountain) and I knew I could get hybrid-like mileage out of a light 4-cylinder vehicle even with my unusual commute.

Originally Posted by ern-diz

or, better yet, ride a motorcycle

I seriously considered this, and was actually 1/3 the way done with building an EV motorcycle out of an old Ninja chassis at one point, but then I gained not just one but two carpoolers. I also became a Big Brother. These things mean that I rarely drive alone.

Originally Posted by ern-diz

or, hey, i got an idea, why don't you ride a bicycle since you're never in that much of a hurry

I have put over 500 miles on my road bicycle this year, all of it from errand running. 25 mile round trip grocery runs, picking up take out, picking up materials from the home improvement store, etc.

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Sorry. Flow with traffic

This conversation is about when or when not to enter the flow of traffic from a stop at a right-hand turn. One cannot keep with the flow of traffic if one has not yet entered the flow of traffic. Please try to focus.

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

or take the bus.

I have spent over 600 miles on buses this year. You can read about some of my travels here:

http://www.newsreview.com/reno/content?oid=1027031

When's the last time you took advantage of public transportation?

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

I wouldn't count on Bailout on making any changes. He craves the attention too much, even if that attention is some 80 yr old lady flipping him off for driving too slow.

Your penchant for alarmism is showing again. Please take a deep breath and try to relax. I have never been flipped off, honked at or had anything thrown at me. Ever. Not here, not in California, not even in Vegas. You have a self-created and convoluted view of what hypermiling looks like but I assure you that your assumptions are inaccurate. If you ever find yourself in the Reno/Tahoe region I invite you to ride along with me for a bit to see for yourself.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by BailOut

Take a dose of reality yourself... I don't care that they don't care, and their wants do not trump my own. Get over it.

That's your problem. One hypermiler out of 100 cars around him, that are driving differently, doesn't have the right to get pissied off. They're just not into the 3 extra drops of gas sqeezing games like you are. Sorry. Flow with traffic, or take the bus.

[1stToyota]

Ouch!

Anyways, I just hope that the average hypermiler out there is getting WAAAAY better mpg than I'm getting, for all their efforts. My last tank I got 44.4 mpg [1/3 city - 2/3 highway], by going around 5 mph over the speed limit, using the a/c, not coasting in gear, running 32psi in my tires, flowing with traffic and getting up to speed quickly, etc...