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CTScott · 10-21-2009, 04:52 PM

Update: I received the OZ cluster from Lewis today!

I immediately had to open the box and hook it up on Crashy. With the swapped connectors (since it is for a RHD Yaris) I just hooked up connector D1, which has power, CAN bus, fuel gauge, tach, speed, etc (the other just has the feeds for a bunch of the indicator lights).

It powered up fine and the fuel gauge showed proper level. So, I started the car and the tach worked correctly, but the speedometer stayed at zero. This cluster is off an ABS car, so that makes sense, as Crashy is non-ABS.

The issue though is that the cluster is indeed angled to... the passenger (at least on this side of the world). The VFD (vacuum fluorescent display) is reversed and is mounted in that chunk at the bottom and is pointed to the left. A concave mirror magnifies and inverts the VFD and angles the display to the USDM passenger.

Being an Engineer, I just had to take it apart to see how it was setup and to snap some pics. Here they are:

Powered up:
OZ On.jpg

Close up of the VFD:
OZ VFD.jpg

Close up of the clock/mileage VFD:
OZ VFD clock.jpg

Concave mirror:
OZ Mirror.jpg

1NZYaris1 · 10-21-2009, 04:57 PM

So could you transplant the guts of the aussie cluster , into the USDM
unit , or is it not that easy

CTScott · 10-21-2009, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1NZYaris1

So could you transplant the guts of the aussie cluster , into the USDM
unit , or is it not that easy

The USDM one is just a flat plane. The Aussie one has the lens in the same place, but the guts and case are completely different to make the VFD work correctly. I was initially thinking that you could modify the bottom chunk and the back to point towards the left, but the upper portion has a molded tunnel that is angled from left to right. It would take some creative plastic work to make the display point left.

*MAD DOG* · 10-21-2009, 06:24 PM

Scott and Lewis,

Glad it works. Looks like some more work is required to make it useable for you though.

Scott,

I know you just got the unit, but is there any chance of a fix so the Km/L would work for us Aussies?

*MAD DOG* · 10-21-2009, 06:31 PM

I think this picture sums up this thread.

:)

CTScott · 10-21-2009, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kustom play

bummer it doesnt work

so how does it look from the driver side? not well or is it kinda tolerable?

well back to looking for a USDM S Cluster

Without modification the speedometer/tach portion are really not viewable at all from the driver's side.

Kioshi · 10-22-2009, 12:48 AM

sedan cluster should be the same size as the liftback cluster, but the plugs to connect are different from the liftback......

Also.....is your car ABS enabled kustom? If not, you will run into problems like Lewis and I.... :P

Kioshi · 10-22-2009, 01:20 AM

I have someone on here who is test fitting a 09 w/ ABS cluster on his 07 non-ABS car....I'll let you know whether it works or not..

But: 08 w/ ABS accepted my RS cluster.
Scott's 08 w/o ABS didnt accept it His 09 with ABS did...

So i highly doubt yours would accept a cluster w/ a tach...speed data won't be sent the same way like it is through the speedometer only cluster~ jus saving you the trouble and money...

But go for it, we already have 2 other guinea pigs on here hahaha

Lewis · 10-22-2009, 07:44 AM

R.I.P. Oz Cluster

CTScott · 10-22-2009, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kustom play

so it looks like its a bust for LHD cars then :(

so looks like the only way to get a tachometer and speedo is the get the USDM tach/speedo combo then

Scott, Anyway to rig up a sedan cluster? How far off is the fit?

I always see those for sale and there super cheap!

The sedan cluster may (?) be the same size, but it mounts differently. It's mounting screws are out on the ends, rather than out in front. The right connector is the same (pinout and all). The left is a wider connector, but the pin functions are identical.

CTScott · 10-22-2009, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kustom play

so maybe it would fit if we could find a way to mount it?

but would it have the issues with the read outs? like say an 07 sedan with an 07 liftback?

I was just looking at sedan cluster pictures on ebay and the sedan one is a very different shape than the LB one.

CTScott · 10-22-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kustom play

ok get back to making the tach fit the clock area

I'm making good progress on it.

Kioshi · 10-22-2009, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kustom play

ok get back to making the tach fit the clock area

so demanding....lol

I wonder if the OZ cluster will have odo adjusting problems like my RS cluster....?

CTScott · 10-22-2009, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kioshi

so demanding....lol

I wonder if the OZ cluster will have odo adjusting problems like my RS cluster....?

I hooked it up to my test bench last night and had the same result with making the speedo change but the odo didn't increment. I just need to get to the bottom of the extra bytes in the speed message.

Kioshi · 10-22-2009, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTScott

I hooked it up to my test bench last night and had the same result with making the speedo change but the odo didn't increment. I just need to get to the bottom of the extra bytes in the speed message.

Did your 09 send any additional messages from my RS cluster that could help you out with that? I know you said you were going to try that out in my thread...dont know~

CTScott · 10-22-2009, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kioshi

Did your 09 send any additional messages from my RS cluster that could help you out with that? I know you said you were going to try that out in my thread...dont know~

My 09 sent the same data to both its own cluster and to your RS cluster. It's entirely possible that the odo increment data is sent in an entirely different message. I have 11 more messages from the 09 data capture to decipher.

Lewis · 10-23-2009, 06:38 AM

Scott - what about starting a new thread keeping us informed on the progress and release of the Yargauge? It seems like the best answer for so many of us who want a tach but within the confines of the existing OEM cluster setup (i.e. not a separate tachometer on the dash and don't want to have to mess with the odometer flashing.

This thread on the OZ cluster is about as dead as a doornail.

*MAD DOG* · 10-23-2009, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lewis

This thread on the OZ cluster is about as dead as a doornail.

Maybe for you but not for me. I'm hoping Scott can figure out a way to make the Km/L and gear display work.

10-21-2009, 04:57 PM	#182
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10-21-2009, 04:52 PM	#181
CTScott ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 09 5dr LB, 2x 08 3dr LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA, CT Posts: 13,450	Update: I received the OZ cluster from Lewis today! I immediately had to open the box and hook it up on Crashy. With the swapped connectors (since it is for a RHD Yaris) I just hooked up connector D1, which has power, CAN bus, fuel gauge, tach, speed, etc (the other just has the feeds for a bunch of the indicator lights). It powered up fine and the fuel gauge showed proper level. So, I started the car and the tach worked correctly, but the speedometer stayed at zero. This cluster is off an ABS car, so that makes sense, as Crashy is non-ABS. The issue though is that the cluster is indeed angled to... the passenger (at least on this side of the world). The VFD (vacuum fluorescent display) is reversed and is mounted in that chunk at the bottom and is pointed to the left. A concave mirror magnifies and inverts the VFD and angles the display to the USDM passenger. Being an Engineer, I just had to take it apart to see how it was setup and to snap some pics. Here they are: Powered up: OZ On.jpg Close up of the VFD: OZ VFD.jpg Close up of the clock/mileage VFD: OZ VFD clock.jpg Concave mirror: OZ Mirror.jpg

10-22-2009, 12:48 AM	#187
Kioshi Heart Up! Vitz Drives: トヨタ Vitz Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 2,582	sedan cluster should be the same size as the liftback cluster, but the plugs to connect are different from the liftback...... Also.....is your car ABS enabled kustom? If not, you will run into problems like Lewis and I.... :P

10-22-2009, 01:20 AM	#188
Kioshi Heart Up! Vitz Drives: トヨタ Vitz Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 2,582	I have someone on here who is test fitting a 09 w/ ABS cluster on his 07 non-ABS car....I'll let you know whether it works or not.. But: 08 w/ ABS accepted my RS cluster. Scott's 08 w/o ABS didnt accept it His 09 with ABS did... So i highly doubt yours would accept a cluster w/ a tach...speed data won't be sent the same way like it is through the speedometer only cluster~ jus saving you the trouble and money... But go for it, we already have 2 other guinea pigs on here hahaha

10-23-2009, 06:38 AM	#197
Lewis Our off road vehicle Drives: 2009 Yaris 3dr Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 198	Scott - what about starting a new thread keeping us informed on the progress and release of the Yargauge? It seems like the best answer for so many of us who want a tach but within the confines of the existing OEM cluster setup (i.e. not a separate tachometer on the dash and don't want to have to mess with the odometer flashing. This thread on the OZ cluster is about as dead as a doornail.