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Old 12-20-2009, 03:29 PM   #1
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You live in Connecticut and NEVER use the a/c in the summer? You are a nuts! I do not understand why anyone would consider buying a new car without a/c. If you decide a year later that you don't like the car, you will have a very hard time selling it.
Your're right that I am nuts -- I have a very high tolerance for heat and humidity, and a low tolerance for cold. So why the heck am I in Connecticut? Oh yes, I'm nuts.

Also, I am nutty frugal. I would never sell a functional vehicle -- I'll drive my next car into the dust. So resale value isn't really a consideration for me.
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:12 PM   #2
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Your're right that I am nuts -- I have a very high tolerance for heat and humidity, and a low tolerance for cold. So why the heck am I in Connecticut? Oh yes, I'm nuts.

Also, I am nutty frugal. I would never sell a functional vehicle -- I'll drive my next car into the dust. So resale value isn't really a consideration for me.
After 100,000 mile reliability ought to be a consideration then.
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Old 12-28-2009, 12:16 AM   #3
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Your're right that I am nuts -- I have a very high tolerance for heat and humidity, and a low tolerance for cold. So why the heck am I in Connecticut? Oh yes, I'm nuts.

Also, I am nutty frugal. I would never sell a functional vehicle -- I'll drive my next car into the dust. So resale value isn't really a consideration for me.
Haha, we have a lot in common.. My Yaris is the first car that I've ever driven regularly that has a functioning air conditioner.. All the other cars I've owned were 12+ years old with A/Cs that broke long before it ever made it into my hands..

Power windows, power locks, power mirrors, and air conditioning are all unnecessary fluff here up north.. Heating on the other hand can be very important as there was one time when I was driving an old Chevy and it was so cold my gloves were so frozen I couldn't grip the steering wheel so I took my gloves off and then my flesh started sticking to the steering wheel (freezing on contact).. Not cool...

That can be dangerous, so definitely having heating is important.

Air conditioning, definitely unnecessary up here in New York..
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:37 PM   #4
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Haha, we have a lot in common.. My Yaris is the first car that I've ever driven regularly that has a functioning air conditioner.. All the other cars I've owned were 12+ years old with A/Cs that broke long before it ever made it into my hands..

Power windows, power locks, power mirrors, and air conditioning are all unnecessary fluff here up north.. Heating on the other hand can be very important as there was one time when I was driving an old Chevy and it was so cold my gloves were so frozen I couldn't grip the steering wheel so I took my gloves off and then my flesh started sticking to the steering wheel (freezing on contact).. Not cool...

That can be dangerous, so definitely having heating is important.
In Sept 1996 I moved to Salt Lake City from San Diego. I was driving a 1980 Corolla then, my first car, which I inherited in '92 or so. On the drive up I had two flats ... dumb kid I was, driving 80 mph on bald tires on superhot pavement!

Anyway, unfortunately the heater had stopped working in San Diego, so that first winter in SLC I had NO HEAT at all -- not fun there in winter!

Here's a toast to the future, less glamorous years of the Yaris!
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Old 01-03-2010, 05:45 PM   #5
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Haha, we have a lot in common.. My Yaris is the first car that I've ever driven regularly that has a functioning air conditioner.. All the other cars I've owned were 12+ years old with A/Cs that broke long before it ever made it into my hands..

Power windows, power locks, power mirrors, and air conditioning are all unnecessary fluff here up north.. Heating on the other hand can be very important as there was one time when I was driving an old Chevy and it was so cold my gloves were so frozen I couldn't grip the steering wheel so I took my gloves off and then my flesh started sticking to the steering wheel (freezing on contact).. Not cool...

That can be dangerous, so definitely having heating is important.

Air conditioning, definitely unnecessary up here in New York..
You guys make it sound like it's always winter up north.

For 3-4 months each year, it's 80's, 90's, and even over 100 degrees F with high humidity. And you're saying that AC is just fluff? Without it, I'd be soaked by the time I got to my destination.

AC and a radio are must have's. The only thing as bad as sitting in a rolling sauna is rolling in a dead quiet casket.

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Old 01-03-2010, 05:58 PM   #6
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Anyway, to the OP...

I would also recommend getting the bare bones Yaris. I assure you that in the long run, it is the more frugal choice. Since the cost factor seems to be you most important, getting the car that goes the longer distance keeps you from another new purchase sooner.

I'm saying this even as a supporter for Hyundai (although not enough to buy over Toyota). I know very well that they now build great cars. Something still tells me though that they won't stand the true test of time. Say 15-20 years of good transportation like Toyota's and Honda's.

As for the 100K warranty? Trust me, you won't need the warranty with the Yaris anyway. And remember, it's just engine and transmission covered which easily goes well past 100K on any car anyway (Hyundai isn't stupid).

The Yaris will serve you 300,000-500,000 miles without major expenses.

You'll probably need to replace the Hyundai after 200K.

Spend the extra few grand now.
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Old 01-03-2010, 06:20 PM   #7
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You'll probably need to replace the Hyundai after 200K.
The three owners of hyundais I have known all got rid of them before 100k. Can you show something saying average hyundais make it to 200k?

edit: you yourself have said hyundais have only been "good" for 5 years tops, and with the average american driving 15k miles a year, I don't know how you are making any claims of reliability past 75k to 100k miles.
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Old 01-03-2010, 06:49 PM   #8
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The three owners of hyundais I have known all got rid of them before 100k. Can you show something saying average hyundais make it to 200k?

edit: you yourself have said hyundais have only been "good" for 5 years tops, and with the average american driving 15k miles a year, I don't know how you are making any claims of reliability past 75k to 100k miles.
I'm just speculating. 200K may very well be optimistic. However, I've seen the last gen Elantra approach that and today's Hyundai's are a big improvement to that. It also depends on how that mileage is accumulated. Tons of highway driving? Easy. Mostly city? Probably die much sooner.
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