Sugary soft drink linked to pancreas cancer. - Toyota Yaris Forums

fmicle · 02-08-2010, 03:57 AM

The assumption MAY be flawed because of a basic principle that states: correlation does not imply causation. In other words, just because A and B occur together it doesn't mean that A causes B or vice versa. Maybe some other factor, C causes both...

Maybe people who don't drink much soda eat healthier as well, maybe they exercise more, etc so overall, they may have a healthier metabolism... Who knows? Statistics are a complicated science...

On average I drink more than one can of soda per day, so yeah I think about pancreatic cancer sometimes... even with an 87% higher chance, that means the risk increases from say 1 in 9,000 people to 1 in 5,000 or so people... I wonder what my risk is of getting into a severe car accident tomorrow on my way to work. I bet it's worse than 1 in 5,000

I also love chocolate and eat quite a lot of it... dang, my pancreas' days must be numbered

SilverBack · 02-08-2010, 04:12 AM

Yeah I'd be more worried about the pancreas overloading and eventually submitting to Diabetes than becoming cancerous.

SailDesign · 02-08-2010, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fmicle

The assumption MAY be flawed because of a basic principle that states: correlation does not imply causation. In other words, just because A and B occur together it doesn't mean that A causes B or vice versa. Maybe some other factor, C causes both...

You still end up with the basic statement being true - the higher risk is there, but may, as you say, not be DUE to the sweetened drinks.
In the same way as "driving a car will heighten your chances of having a car accident". In fact, your chances are almost as high if you are the passenger, so the act of driving is not in itself the cause, just an indicator of risk.
BTW - Statistics (capital "S") IS a science, but statistics (small "S") ARE known to be hard to interpret...

Kal-El · 02-08-2010, 11:03 AM

Everything except clean air and water causes cancer, what else is new.

BailOut · 02-08-2010, 11:27 AM

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Just about everything that's highly processed, synthetic and/or contains more than 5 ingredients, or that causes electromagnetic or volatile emissions beyond the weaker levels, causes cancer.

There. Fixed it for ya.

127.0.0.1 · 02-08-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BailOut

There. Fixed it for ya.

Living causes cancer.

Life is a terminal illness.

fmicle · 02-08-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1

Living causes cancer.

Life is a terminal illness.

Or the way I heard this: Life is a sexually transmitted fatal disease

02-08-2010, 03:57 AM	#1
fmicle Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Jose, CA, USA Posts: 685	The assumption MAY be flawed because of a basic principle that states: correlation does not imply causation. In other words, just because A and B occur together it doesn't mean that A causes B or vice versa. Maybe some other factor, C causes both... Maybe people who don't drink much soda eat healthier as well, maybe they exercise more, etc so overall, they may have a healthier metabolism... Who knows? Statistics are a complicated science... On average I drink more than one can of soda per day, so yeah I think about pancreatic cancer sometimes... even with an 87% higher chance, that means the risk increases from say 1 in 9,000 people to 1 in 5,000 or so people... I wonder what my risk is of getting into a severe car accident tomorrow on my way to work. I bet it's worse than 1 in 5,000 I also love chocolate and eat quite a lot of it... dang, my pancreas' days must be numbered __________________ 5% Tint Rear \| Micro Image LED Ignition Light Kit

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