CBS didn't stop Andy Rooney

[RedRide]

This is a copy of the text concerning the "mandate tax" as written in the bill:

2) SPECIAL RULES.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law—
‘‘(A) WAIVER OF CRIMINAL PENALTIES.— In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.
‘‘(B) LIMITATIONS ON LIENS AND LEVIES.—The Secretary shall not—
‘‘(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or
‘‘(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.


So, in realty there is no real provision to collect the so callked mandate tax.
They can tell you to pay it but it can't be legally collected.

BTW the refom bill was writthen by countlees commities and constantly changed and perverted into the bill that was finally passed and is now law. I admiit that it's not perfect.
However, the staus quo was no longer a viable option and the biil is at least a start.
Refinements etc are shure to follow in the comming years and I hope we as a county can agree on sensible changes.

Let's not loose sight of the fact that a mandate to purchase health insurance was first proposed by some republicans in response to The Clinton adminitration's health care reform discussions.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by yaris-me

You guys can have fun, even without the post. Interesting.

What do you mean "without the post"?

Health care issues were just a part of the false transcript we're talking about
and it just happened to become the discussion.

I don't see anything wrong with a friendly discussion about one of life's most critical issues.

Originally Posted by RedRide

This is a copy of the text concerning the "mandate tax" as written in the bill:

2) SPECIAL RULES.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law—
‘‘(A) WAIVER OF CRIMINAL PENALTIES.— In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.
‘‘(B) LIMITATIONS ON LIENS AND LEVIES.—The Secretary shall not—
‘‘(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or
‘‘(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.


So, in realty there is no real provision to collect the so calked mandate tax.
They can tell you to pay it but it can't be legally collected.

BTW the reform bill was written by countless committees and constantly changed and perverted into the bill that was finally passed and is now law. I admit that it's not perfect.
However, the status quo was no longer a viable option and the biil is at least a start.
Refinements etc are sure to follow in the coming years and I hope we as a county can agree on sensible changes.

Let's not loose sight of the fact that a mandate to purchase health insurance was first proposed by some republicans in response to The Clinton administration's health care reform discussions.

Well, my point is that there is now a huge problem with the whole structure of the bill (of course almost the entire bill is a disgrace but I'll try not to get into all that ). Of course a federal mandate to buy insurance is unconstitutional which is the first flaw. But the realization that no one will be forced to pay into the system anyway is quite remarkable. I continue to believe that nearly half this country believes that government programs happen without having to be paid for. We're are talking about trillions of dollars here and now we find out that we can indeed "game the system". By law, we can't be turned away for any health service. Yet not a single American will be required to pay for coverage. I may be crazy, but it looks like there may be a slight mathematical problem. No?