Gun debate

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

Well here in Toledo, there are armed home invasions... many armed robberies, guys running around raping and killing women. For that reason I always carry my .45 and usually my .38 as a back up. There are 2 shotguns one in the bedroom and one in the familyroom, the two rooms we are in the most. My 5'4" 100lbs wife can handle any of the weapons fine, so I know my wife will be to defend herself. With all the crap going on here, I open carry my .45 most of the time. We are also moving to Arizona, an even more gun friendly state :)

Wow, I'd feel right at home in a place like that! God bless ya!

I don't carry a weapon/weapons (yeah, I often have a BUG as well!) with the intent of shooting somebody, I carry it to prevent being shot! I pray that I never have to use lethal force against someone; but if they threaten me, my family or my property, I sure as hell will have the ability do defend all of the above. The bad guys may not have any intent on harming any of us, but how do you know that? I'd rather not hope that the odds being in my favor, I'd rather ensure they are!

Plus, other people may depend on the police to protect themselves; but remember that when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away!

Oh, and 47_MasoN_47, I've also got a pistol-gripped Mossy (a Persuader) loaded with 3" Magnum 00-buckshot rounds. It is the HD weapon of choice!

And what I love about Texas is that if anyone is killed or injured during a crime, everyone committing the crime is held accountable. That means if a couple of idiots try and break into my house, and I shoot and kill one of them, the "surviving" idiots will be charged with his death, not me! As we say in these parts, Don't Mess With Texas!

"An armed society is a polite society!" - Robert A. Heinlein

Amen!

Cheers! M2

p.s Everyone reading this thread should also read On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs by Dave Grossman. I met then-LTC Grossman several years ago at a seminar when I was still in the military, the man knows his stuff!

[Emerge]

Originally Posted by MadMax

I pray that I never have to use lethal force against someone; but if they threaten me, my family or my property, I sure as hell will have the ability do defend all of the above. The bad guys may not have any intent on harming any of us, but how do you know that? I'd rather not hope that the odds being in my favor, I'd rather ensure they are!

I can certainly appreciate this train of thought even if I don't personally adopt it.

Originally Posted by Gideon

Yeah, fear the police and goverment, that's an awesome idea.

Given the possiblity of error in courts of law, that is the stupidest idea ever. How many appeals will someone be given? None? So we possibly sacrifice innocent citizens in an attempt to deter the criminals and trash of this country to act like civilized people?

I think he was talking about people who are actually guilty as opposed to people who have been convicted. In my mind, if there was a stiffer punishment it would only make sense to make the burden of proof to be more substantial as well.