April Yaris sales down big time

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by Zaphod

When I see warranties like that I just smell desperation. I don't want a GMC vehicle no matter how long the warranty is, after all who cares if the company who's supposed to honor it is out of business.

But to be honest they throw 10 years on there just to make it look better than it is. The real number there for most people, especially regarding the drivetrain is 100,000 miles.

The point is that the drivetrain is normally not the thing that goes out on any car unless you abuse it, in which case the warranty may be void (don't change the oil, etc ...).

But it also drives home one more point, most people are under this strange impression that you have to take your car to the stealership for maintenance in order to keep the warranty valid.

So the dealerships are more than happy to honor something like this as I'm sure it just makes them a whole lot more money in the long run.

im going to have to disagree with you

for the last decade my parents' cars have always run out of time before mileage. theyre older and don't travel that much anymore. my dad is retired and my mom works in-town.

even i have to admit that i don't put on NEAR the mileage i used to when i was single and drove all the time just for fun. our aveo is past its 3yr old mark and only has about 50000kms on it. (so 5/6 done the warranty mileage). yaris is at 54000km and will be three years old at the end of july....but its made several trips from the east coast and back (~3000km round trip)

with an aging population and a down-turned economy, i think you'll see people not commuting 50 miles to and from work or driving just for the sake of driving

like i said before, id rock a car because it had longer warranty, but my priorities are different than that of an 18yr old

[Zaphod]

Originally Posted by thebarber

im going to have to disagree with you

for the last decade my parents' cars have always run out of time before mileage. theyre older and don't travel that much anymore. my dad is retired and my mom works in-town.

even i have to admit that i don't put on NEAR the mileage i used to when i was single and drove all the time just for fun. our aveo is past its 3yr old mark and only has about 50000kms on it. (so 5/6 done the warranty mileage). yaris is at 54000km and will be three years old at the end of july....but its made several trips from the east coast and back (~3000km round trip)

with an aging population and a down-turned economy, i think you'll see people not commuting 50 miles to and from work or driving just for the sake of driving

like i said before, id rock a car because it had longer warranty, but my priorities are different than that of an 18yr old

But if it's only covering the drive train ...

I don't know, I've just never had to rebuild an engine, transmissions are a different story though but that's only happened to me when on one car at 150,000 miles (wrangler manual clutch was abused with off road driving), another at 200,000 miles (pinto manual), and finally another at 230,000 miles (maverick auto). Heck, the 75 Mercury approached near 400,000 miles without a failure to either of them. That poor beast of burden was good for at least 10 round trips to Florida pulling a trailer.

Things that went wrong, and I was no stranger to fixing them: ball joints, shocks, cylinders, pads, rotors, drums, compressors, alternators, radiators, leaf and coil springs, shocks, bearings, etc ...

I do expect the Yaris to be the most reliable car I've owned to date, and so far the build quality just impresses me to no end. JMO, but the 100,000 mile marker on drive train components just doesn't impress me at all as I just haven't had a drive train component go out on me within 100,000 miles on any car I've owned lemon (Maverick) or otherwise.

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by Zaphod

But if it's only covering the drive train ...

I don't know, I've just never had to rebuild an engine, transmissions are a different story though but that's only happened to me when on one car at 150,000 miles (wrangler manual clutch was abused with off road driving), another at 200,000 miles (pinto manual), and finally another at 230,000 miles (maverick auto). Heck, the 75 Mercury approached near 400,000 miles without a failure to either of them. That poor beast of burden was good for at least 10 round trips to Florida pulling a trailer.

Things that went wrong, and I was no stranger to fixing them: ball joints, shocks, cylinders, pads, rotors, drums, compressors, alternators, radiators, leaf and coil springs, shocks, bearings, etc ...

I do expect the Yaris to be the most reliable car I've owned to date, and so far the build quality just impresses me to no end. JMO, but the 100,000 mile marker on drive train components just doesn't impress me at all as I just haven't had a drive train component go out on me within 100,000 miles on any car I've owned lemon (Maverick) or otherwise.

depends on the car

i had a matrix xrs before the yaris and had a constant string of problems....a/c gone before 3yr/60k warranty (*note im talking kms here**), synchros fixed at 55k, tranny replaced at 78k, steering rack replaced under extended warranty at 70k, moonroof seal leaked, hatch struts replaced a couple times, clutch is a known/unknown issue of the matrix as well. more recently ive been hearing about the 5speed transmissions breaking around the 150k+ mark.

frankly, if i can get a 5yr comprehensive warranty included in the price of a car, it IS a selling feature for me.

ive already had my rear tails lights replaced twice in 2 years for condensation in the yaris. my shifter and clutch squeak going in/out, too.

we'll see how the yaris stands up to the next couple years.

btw, beeblebrox, where do you live? edit: missouri, i see. i thought your location might relate to your "bulletproof" car experiences

[Zaphod]

Yeah, we get the full variety of weather conditions here and a pretty fair mix of city/highway as well. Honestly rust has been the biggest killer for me.

I don't know, I drove my beaters hard when I was young just like most kids, but I was also careful to maintain them as well.

I have known people who did break their engines all the time, but they were boring them out and taking them to the track.