ABS brakes / Would you buy a Yaris without them?

[Zaphod]

Originally Posted by bronsin

I agree wholeheartedly. But those who advocate ABS on motorcycles claim in a panic situation the impulse is to grab a handfull of brakes and swerve. This puts the bike on the ground immediately. Which can be a good or bad thing. In my experience it IS true you tend to do that. Im not sure ABS allows a biker to brake and swerve simultanously. But it might be a benefit.

Cars dont need it certainly. ABS is just an insane mindset forstered off on us by manufacturers, statasticians, and the government. And they arent stopping at ABS either. These morons believe they can make cars that avoid accidents all by themselves. They are completely out of their minds and no one can stop them unless no body buts their shit.

My bike is too old so I don't have ABS, but there are definitely times that I wish it did. I've never laid it down by giving it too much rear brake, but I certainly have been close. I thought for sure I was either going down or hitting a car, but then I just decided that both were horrible options due to the nature of the accident in front of me so I just got it together and balanced those brakes perfectly for a stop that almost sent me over the bike

I was a new rider then so admittedly I was still figuring things out, but I still find there are times ABS would be nice ... and I could definitely see it more for the bigger bikes as it seems to me like you can feel it faster and make you corrections much more quickly on a lighter more responsive bike.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by Zaphod

My bike is too old so I don't have ABS, but there are definitely times that I wish it did. I've never laid it down by giving it too much rear brake, but I certainly have been close. I thought for sure I was either going down or hitting a car, but then I just decided that both were horrible options due to the nature of the accident in front of me so I just got it together and balanced those brakes perfectly for a stop that almost sent me over the bike

I was a new rider then so admittedly I was still figuring things out, but I still find there are times ABS would be nice ... and I could definitely see it more for the bigger bikes as it seems to me like you can feel it faster and make you corrections much more quickly on a lighter more responsive bike.

As someone who has ridden bikes for 40 years, I have learned the biggest piece of the safety puzzle is YOU, not some gadget on the bike. One is only as safe as he (or she) allows themselves to be.

[carnageehw]

Originally Posted by bronsin

As someone who has ridden bikes for 40 years, I have learned the biggest piece of the safety puzzle is YOU, not some gadget on the bike. One is only as safe as he (or she) allows themselves to be.

No one is arguing otherwise.