ABS and "!" lights are ON again! - Page 17 - Toyota Yaris Forums

N9QGS · 03-25-2011, 07:25 PM

I went to my tire place, they checked all connections; they saw nothing worth alarming, and it only came on one more time after this and now the weather is warmer, it has not returned. I do expect to see it next winter, and I will get it taken care of at that time.

Bluevitz-rs · 03-26-2011, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonderboy3997

So I have read the entire YarisWorld Forum concerning ABS failure..Does anyone have a copy of TSB-0120-08 for the ABS issue? I have an 08 Sedan S with 69k..Driving along and the ABS and brake Light both come on..begins to rain and suddenly they both go off..on and off, depending on weather for a week..Finally, both lights stay on and car makes clunking sound when brakes are applied..go to dealership, and am informed it's probably an ABS malfunction..DUH!! Really?? Are you sure it isnt the air conditioning? Or the Muffler?
So I leave the car, and rent a car to drive for the "two, maybe three days to fix it" answer I get from dealership...Three days later, receive a call stating the ABS is not working, and harness and wiring assembly need to be replaced- oh and by the way, the part has to come from Japan and will take 3 weeks- estimated.."We have rental cars here at the dealership" ..Well thanks Biff, I had planned on walking the 20 miles to work in February, average temp 30 degrees; but if you have rental cars... So I rent a car from them. Three weeks later, part arrives and dealership happily calls to inform me the car is "ready to Go!" And all for only $1256.00 american...Parts, labor, and rental car..So Biff mentions that there is a magical 800 number (Toyota Customer Service) that might help me defer some of the cost..Being a christian, I will only say they came short of laughing at me for calling, and actually suggested I return to the dealership, to see if "they" could help.. I did read one post, where they sent a certified letter, but it was Canadian; where they care...Any suggestions as to where to go from here?

Don't know if they have it in the states, but here in Canada, if you go to the dealer for regular maintenance, they have what's called "Good Will Warranty" for out of warranty vehicles. Dealer pays 20%, customer pays 20% and Toyota Canada Pays 60%. But if you've never been back to the dealer for any service, you'll have little to no luck getting it, because they have no reason to help a customer out that's never spent any money at their dealership.

"G" · 04-15-2011, 03:49 PM

Has this been recalled by toyota yet????????

"G" · 04-18-2011, 07:36 PM

Lot's of good info in this thread. My abs/ brake light recently came on so I checked my rear sensors and this is what I found. One pin basically corroded off completely. Their has to be a replacement sensor available with out having to buy a whole new hub. Or an updated part. I think i'm going to try and remove the sensor and see what happens. Are their any updates on whether or not you can buy just the sensor???? From looking at the base, it looks like a twist and pull removal. Similar to a parking light bulb. If the whole hub needs to be replaced then it looks like a bad design on Aisin's part.

Here is a link to Aisin's website >> http://www.aisin.com/product/automot...ake/index.html If you scroll down you will se they are mighty proud of their offerings

The speed sensor with integrated hub is the exact toyota model! The bottom speed sensor which they refer to as "stick style" is used on the front of the yaris. I think we should all email aisin and say wtf!

PrincessKay · 05-12-2011, 09:44 AM

Both of my lights are on as well - somewhat of a comfort to know that I'm not the only one.

I drive an '07 RS HB. I have to go in tomorrow for service so I will talk to them about it then. This really should be a recall...

sternz · 05-15-2011, 09:09 AM

I'm having the problem as well, it started happening this past winter. I cleaned the rear sensors and applied Dielectric Tune-up Grease and still have the lights on. I really don't want to have to pay anything to have this problem fixed, since it should be recalled. I'm very disappointed Toyota has done nothing for their clients. Worst part is that unless the design for the sensors themselves are not changed, it will just keep us all going back to the shop.

I contacted the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/index.cfm

I urge those in the US to do the same.

devinlamothe · 05-20-2011, 11:30 PM

I've tried almost everything to get Toyota to do SOMETHING about this, but unless I pay them to do the repair they won't budge. Toyota Canada is crap when trying to get anything.

They should have really had a recall for this issue since it's happening to more and more people.

I just leave the lights on the dash on, I don't care any more since they keep coming back on.

derickveliz2 · 05-21-2011, 08:25 AM

They turn on and off all the time, specially when wet.

D.

Mikeey01nzl · 05-27-2011, 11:10 PM

Okay now I'm really confused...

ABS light comes on, I don't own any diag stuff to plug into it so I jumpered 4 & 13. ABS light flashes 4 times then goes out, then flashes 9 times.
None of this even comes close to what is listed above.. does anyone know what it's complaining about?

derickveliz2 · 05-27-2011, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikeey01nzl

Okay now I'm really confused...

ABS light comes on, I don't own any diag stuff to plug into it so I jumper 4 & 13. ABS light flashes 4 times then goes out, then flashes 9 times.
None of this even comes close to what is listed above.. does anyone know what it's complaining about?

I'm sorry if I'm been naive here, but what does it means to " I jumper 4 & 13"

D.

Mikeey01nzl · 05-27-2011, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

I'm sorry if I'm been naive here, but what does it means to " I jumper 4 & 13"D.

Short the two terminals... read this excellent post by C T Scott for more info
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/sho...&postcount=262

So back to my orginal question chaps.... what the heck is 49 or 94 flashes on the ABS light really mean?

Iain · 07-01-2011, 10:26 PM

I have two 07 Yaris', a sedan and a HB. The ABS problem, I believe, is due to road salt probably causing corrosion. The dealer will fix, I believe, for about $600 - $1000 by replacing all the wiring (not needed only the rear wheels cause the problem). I found that the front wheels were fine. However on the rear wheels the elctrical connection going into the wheel hub does not have an outer plastic insulation covering (as it does on the front hub) only the individual wires going to the sensor. I sprayed the cables with WD40 and then regular engine oil and filled the little pocket/pit/depression with oil at the hub. After a couple of weeks the ABS came on less frequently. Now after about a month it no longer comes on at all and that has been like that for about 4 months now. Got the idea because the one vehicle I had rust proofed never developed a problem. Hope this helps someone and save a pocket full of cash.
It's heaven, before the ABS light was always on.
Cheers Iain

salmonz · 07-02-2011, 12:49 AM

If you're handy and Toyota seems a bit much, you can always order 2 new after market rear ABS sensors for $288 CAD (taxes, brokerage and shipping included) from Rockauto. http://goo.gl/L6z5o

Duncan Ashworth · 07-28-2011, 10:34 AM

Total cost spent to date related to the faulty ABS brake issue is $6000+- and counting. Sooner or later Toyota Canada has to issue a recall notice for this major safety defect. I'm amazed no one has been killed yet! We have spun around 3 times because of a locked rear wheel. Wow! unbelievable. I recently filed with Transport Canada. I will be undertaking legal action unless Toyota Canada fesses up.

ChitownY@Ris · 07-28-2011, 10:56 AM

These sensors went out on me a couple times. Each time they were covered by Toyota warranty. First time was a few months after I bought the car brand new. Second time was two years later, which I thought was related to me pulling the hand break and drifting from time to time. But as I said, Toyota replaced sensors nonetheless. Now I have 2000 miles left under my 75000 mile warranty, so after that if it happens again, I guess I'll be in the same boat as some guys here looking to buy sensors and DIY.

derickveliz2 · 07-28-2011, 11:21 PM

Mine are ON all the time now! I guess I'm going to have to get down there and solder them directly.

D.

devinlamothe · 07-29-2011, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duncan Ashworth

Total cost spent to date related to the faulty ABS brake issue is $6000+- and counting. Sooner or later Toyota Canada has to issue a recall notice for this major safety defect. I'm amazed no one has been killed yet! We have spun around 3 times because of a locked rear wheel. Wow! unbelievable. I recently filed with Transport Canada. I will be undertaking legal action unless Toyota Canada fesses up.

Good luck with Transport Canada - I filed almost a year ago and got no response.

My ABS lights have been on for a couple of years now ... I don't really care to spend $$$ to fix this.

If you find a way to solder them directly to the hub without damaging anything, can you please post some pics of what you've done? I would like to do the same and then apply a crap-ton of weather proof silicone to seal the bugger.

"G" · 07-29-2011, 07:56 PM

In order to solder them directly you need to remove the hub anyway, so you might as well install a new one.

03-25-2011, 07:25 PM	#289
N9QGS View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Georgetown, KY Posts: 117	I went to my tire place, they checked all connections; they saw nothing worth alarming, and it only came on one more time after this and now the weather is warmer, it has not returned. I do expect to see it next winter, and I will get it taken care of at that time. __________________ 198K Miles

04-18-2011, 07:36 PM	#292
"G" Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 346	Lot's of good info in this thread. My abs/ brake light recently came on so I checked my rear sensors and this is what I found. One pin basically corroded off completely. Their has to be a replacement sensor available with out having to buy a whole new hub. Or an updated part. I think i'm going to try and remove the sensor and see what happens. Are their any updates on whether or not you can buy just the sensor???? From looking at the base, it looks like a twist and pull removal. Similar to a parking light bulb. If the whole hub needs to be replaced then it looks like a bad design on Aisin's part. Here is a link to Aisin's website >> http://www.aisin.com/product/automot...ake/index.html If you scroll down you will se they are mighty proud of their offerings The speed sensor with integrated hub is the exact toyota model! The bottom speed sensor which they refer to as "stick style" is used on the front of the yaris. I think we should all email aisin and say wtf! Last edited by "G"; 04-18-2011 at 07:50 PM.

05-15-2011, 09:09 AM	#294
sternz Drives: 08 Blazing Blue LB Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Milford, PA Posts: 20	I'm having the problem as well, it started happening this past winter. I cleaned the rear sensors and applied Dielectric Tune-up Grease and still have the lights on. I really don't want to have to pay anything to have this problem fixed, since it should be recalled. I'm very disappointed Toyota has done nothing for their clients. Worst part is that unless the design for the sensors themselves are not changed, it will just keep us all going back to the shop. I contacted the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/index.cfm I urge those in the US to do the same. Last edited by sternz; 05-21-2011 at 10:11 AM. Reason: Added direct url for vehicle complaint

05-21-2011, 08:25 AM	#296
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	They turn on and off all the time, specially when wet. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

05-27-2011, 11:10 PM	#297
Mikeey01nzl 91octane $2.24nzd / litre Drives: 05 5d 1.3 CVT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 21	Okay now I'm really confused... ABS light comes on, I don't own any diag stuff to plug into it so I jumpered 4 & 13. ABS light flashes 4 times then goes out, then flashes 9 times. None of this even comes close to what is listed above.. does anyone know what it's complaining about? __________________ Last edited by Mikeey01nzl; 05-27-2011 at 11:51 PM.

04-15-2011, 03:49 PM	#291
"G" Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 346	Has this been recalled by toyota yet????????

05-12-2011, 09:44 AM	#293
PrincessKay Drives: Blueberry Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 2	Both of my lights are on as well - somewhat of a comfort to know that I'm not the only one. I drive an '07 RS HB. I have to go in tomorrow for service so I will talk to them about it then. This really should be a recall...

05-20-2011, 11:30 PM	#295
devinlamothe Drives: '07 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sudbury, Canada Posts: 520	I've tried almost everything to get Toyota to do SOMETHING about this, but unless I pay them to do the repair they won't budge. Toyota Canada is crap when trying to get anything. They should have really had a recall for this issue since it's happening to more and more people. I just leave the lights on the dash on, I don't care any more since they keep coming back on.

07-01-2011, 10:26 PM	#300
Iain I've made a post! Drives: 2007 Yaris Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 1	ABS AGAIN I have two 07 Yaris', a sedan and a HB. The ABS problem, I believe, is due to road salt probably causing corrosion. The dealer will fix, I believe, for about $600 - $1000 by replacing all the wiring (not needed only the rear wheels cause the problem). I found that the front wheels were fine. However on the rear wheels the elctrical connection going into the wheel hub does not have an outer plastic insulation covering (as it does on the front hub) only the individual wires going to the sensor. I sprayed the cables with WD40 and then regular engine oil and filled the little pocket/pit/depression with oil at the hub. After a couple of weeks the ABS came on less frequently. Now after about a month it no longer comes on at all and that has been like that for about 4 months now. Got the idea because the one vehicle I had rust proofed never developed a problem. Hope this helps someone and save a pocket full of cash. It's heaven, before the ABS light was always on. Cheers Iain

07-02-2011, 12:49 AM	#301
salmonz Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milton, ON, Canada Posts: 66	If you're handy and Toyota seems a bit much, you can always order 2 new after market rear ABS sensors for $288 CAD (taxes, brokerage and shipping included) from Rockauto. http://goo.gl/L6z5o

07-28-2011, 10:34 AM	#302
Duncan Ashworth I've made a post! Drives: 2007 Toyota Yaris Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Caledon, On. Posts: 1	Unsafe 07 Yaris Total cost spent to date related to the faulty ABS brake issue is $6000+- and counting. Sooner or later Toyota Canada has to issue a recall notice for this major safety defect. I'm amazed no one has been killed yet! We have spun around 3 times because of a locked rear wheel. Wow! unbelievable. I recently filed with Transport Canada. I will be undertaking legal action unless Toyota Canada fesses up.

07-28-2011, 10:56 AM	#303
ChitownY@Ris View User's Garage Drives: '07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 113	These sensors went out on me a couple times. Each time they were covered by Toyota warranty. First time was a few months after I bought the car brand new. Second time was two years later, which I thought was related to me pulling the hand break and drifting from time to time. But as I said, Toyota replaced sensors nonetheless. Now I have 2000 miles left under my 75000 mile warranty, so after that if it happens again, I guess I'll be in the same boat as some guys here looking to buy sensors and DIY. __________________

07-28-2011, 11:21 PM	#304
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Mine are ON all the time now! I guess I'm going to have to get down there and solder them directly. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-29-2011, 07:56 PM	#306
"G" Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 346	In order to solder them directly you need to remove the hub anyway, so you might as well install a new one.