16 x 7. To go ET40 or ET45 ? - Toyota Yaris Forums

nurburgring · 03-19-2007, 02:08 AM

I was thinking ET45, but would the wheel be sticking in too much? I want to be on the safer side... rubbing is a nono for me.

Black Yaris · 03-19-2007, 08:02 AM

if you do not want to rub then do not get those wheels, +38 is it on a 7 inch or wider, that will run the wheels flush with the fenders and just barely clears the inside with no rubbing, and +40 or +45 will rub the inside but will tuck in the fenders a lil nicer

largeorangefont · 03-19-2007, 10:54 AM

Are you lowered? If so how much?

If you arent lowered and don't plan to anything from +38 to +45 will be fine on a 7 in wheel.

The lower you go the more critical it is to get the exact offset you need to avoid rubbing. I agree that between +38 and +40 is where you need to be with a 7 in wheel.

My car is lowered 1.7 inches front and rear and I have 205/50/16 tires. 16X7 +40 wheels.

If you get 45 series tires on 16s you won't rub if you go +40 offset. +45 will rub most likely with either tire. My 50 series tires rubs the inner fender liner very slighty on high speed bumps and on ramps.

Black Yaris · 03-19-2007, 11:37 AM

http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCal...bmit&reset=yes
please do homework before talking about something you think you know something about

largeorangefont · 03-19-2007, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Yaris

http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCal...bmit&reset=yes
please do homework before talking about something you think you know something about

I know exacly what I am talking about. I did edit my post to add more pertinent info. I just woke up when I posted and it seemed to make more sence then. The info I stated above applies to 16in wheels.

Nimble · 03-19-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Yaris

http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCal...bmit&reset=yes
please do homework before talking about something you think you know something about

He DRIVES the flippin car he's speaking of! That doesn't qualify him?

Nimble · 03-19-2007, 02:05 PM

The only problem with running say a 205/45 16 vs the 205/50 16 is that the car will be lower as well. It won't appear that way, but the difference in less rolling diameter, will also be the extra amount lowered. I know on my dropped Yaris, I couldn't afford any more drop. That's why I'm going to be a weenie and just buy 195/55 15's when I buy 15" wheels, otherwise, I'd go 195/50 16 for 16's.

largeorangefont · 03-19-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimble

The only problem with running say a 205/45 16 vs the 205/50 16 is that the car will be lower as well. It won't appear that way, but the difference in less rolling diameter, will also be the extra amount lowered. I know on my dropped Yaris, I couldn't afford any more drop. That's why I'm going to be a weenie and just buy 195/55 15's when I buy 15" wheels, otherwise, I'd go 195/50 16 for 16's.

The 205 50s look great on the car, especially now that the springs have settled. The fender gap in minimal and the car is high enough to navigate every obstacle in everyday driving.

I didnt get the Tanabe DFs because I thought they were too low in the back.

PetersRedYaris · 03-19-2007, 02:55 PM

Maybe we should all step down and let the tire God, aka the tire guy, aka Black Yaris, tell people which wheels/tires they should run.

We all know you worked at a tire shop for 7 years but that doesn't mean your the only one who knows tires.

On a more positive note I have 7 inch wide wheels with 38mm offset and no rubbing with 1.1-1.3 inch drop.

Nimble · 03-19-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PetersRedYaris

Maybe we should all step down and let the Tire God, aka the tire guy, aka Black Yaris, tell people which wheels/tires they should run.

We all know you worked at a tire shop for 7 years but that doesn't mean your the only one who knows tires.

On a more positive note I have 7 inch wide wheels with 38mm offset and no rubbing with 1.1-1.3 inch drop.

I respectfully think I should be said *tire god.*

SailDesign · 03-19-2007, 07:08 PM

I'm running 205/45-16s with a 40 offset on an unlowered LB. Looks fine, doesn't rub. No problems. I AM about 1/2" under stock diameter, but the 205/50-16s are about 1/3" over stock - take your pick.
Look in my garage for a pic of the 205/45-16s on the car

nurburgring · 03-20-2007, 08:24 AM

I dont get it!

+38 rims have lesser offset than +45 , which means..... the +38 is being pushed out more towards the fenders. I dont get it, when u say +38 wont rub, but +45 will, unless u are talking about rubbing on the inside of the tire against the suspension components.

Please clarify. Thank You.

An extreme example is illustrated below... sorry for the 1 minute drawing.

By the way, large orange font, whats your ET ? You rub a little, so I figured if I could give it a bit more positive offset, it shld do the trick.

eTiMaGo · 03-20-2007, 11:14 AM

rubbing can also happen on the inside of the wheel well

PetersRedYaris · 03-20-2007, 11:23 AM

[QUOTE=nurburgring;64643]I dont get it!

+38 rims have lesser offset than +45 , which means..... the +38 is being pushed out more towards the fenders. I dont get it, when u say +38 wont rub, but +45 will, unless u are talking about rubbing on the inside of the tire against the suspension components.
Please clarify. Thank You.

[QUOTE]

Thats correct, +45 may rub on the inside, and +38 nearly rubs on the outside. This is why it is recommended to get something between these measurments using them as a minimum and maximum. For a 7 inch wide wheel I would go with a +38 to +40. For a 7.5 inch wide wheel I would go with +42 or +45.

Keep in mind were talking about a diffreence of 7mm from minimum to maximum offset, which is not much. If you don't know, 10 millimeters = 1 centimeter, and 7mm = .27 inches, so about 1/4 inch difference.

largeorangefont · 03-20-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nurburgring

I dont get it!

+38 rims have lesser offset than +45 , which means..... the +38 is being pushed out more towards the fenders. I dont get it, when u say +38 wont rub, but +45 will, unless u are talking about rubbing on the inside of the tire against the suspension components.

Please clarify. Thank You.

An extreme example is illustrated below... sorry for the 1 minute drawing.

By the way, large orange font, whats your ET ? You rub a little, so I figured if I could give it a bit more positive offset, it shld do the trick.

I have +40. and I rub slightly on the INSIDE on the front. +38 should give you a bit more clearance, but you will probably need to roll your rear fenders a bit because if you have the car fully loaded (4 people) the tires my rub on the OUTSIDE. My tires just clear but a +38 would rub.

nurburgring · 03-20-2007, 12:36 PM

Thank You. I've been confused for the longest time. To play it safe, I might just go for the rarer 195/50R16s

03-19-2007, 02:08 AM	#1
nurburgring ringmeister Drives: YARIS 1.5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 80	16 x 7. To go ET40 or ET45 ? I was thinking ET45, but would the wheel be sticking in too much? I want to be on the safer side... rubbing is a nono for me.

03-19-2007, 10:54 AM	#3
largeorangefont Break'em off some. View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris LB, 04 Cobra Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: So Cal, OC Posts: 854	Are you lowered? If so how much? If you arent lowered and don't plan to anything from +38 to +45 will be fine on a 7 in wheel. The lower you go the more critical it is to get the exact offset you need to avoid rubbing. I agree that between +38 and +40 is where you need to be with a 7 in wheel. My car is lowered 1.7 inches front and rear and I have 205/50/16 tires. 16X7 +40 wheels. If you get 45 series tires on 16s you won't rub if you go +40 offset. +45 will rub most likely with either tire. My 50 series tires rubs the inner fender liner very slighty on high speed bumps and on ramps. Last edited by largeorangefont; 03-19-2007 at 02:11 PM.

03-19-2007, 02:05 PM	#7
Nimble Modification Condoner. Drives: 2007 Black Sand Liftback Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 360	The only problem with running say a 205/45 16 vs the 205/50 16 is that the car will be lower as well. It won't appear that way, but the difference in less rolling diameter, will also be the extra amount lowered. I know on my dropped Yaris, I couldn't afford any more drop. That's why I'm going to be a weenie and just buy 195/55 15's when I buy 15" wheels, otherwise, I'd go 195/50 16 for 16's. __________________ Tanabe DF, Debadged, stripped, Black emblems

03-19-2007, 02:55 PM	#9
PetersRedYaris View User's Garage Drives: 2005 Scion xB Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Black Hills of South Dakota Posts: 1,059	Maybe we should all step down and let the tire God, aka the tire guy, aka Black Yaris, tell people which wheels/tires they should run. We all know you worked at a tire shop for 7 years but that doesn't mean your the only one who knows tires. On a more positive note I have 7 inch wide wheels with 38mm offset and no rubbing with 1.1-1.3 inch drop. Last edited by PetersRedYaris; 03-19-2007 at 11:27 PM.

03-20-2007, 11:14 AM	#13
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	rubbing can also happen on the inside of the wheel well __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

03-19-2007, 08:02 AM	#2
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	if you do not want to rub then do not get those wheels, +38 is it on a 7 inch or wider, that will run the wheels flush with the fenders and just barely clears the inside with no rubbing, and +40 or +45 will rub the inside but will tuck in the fenders a lil nicer

03-19-2007, 11:37 AM	#4
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCal...bmit&reset=yes please do homework before talking about something you think you know something about

03-19-2007, 07:08 PM	#11
SailDesign Drives: . Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,931	I'm running 205/45-16s with a 40 offset on an unlowered LB. Looks fine, doesn't rub. No problems. I AM about 1/2" under stock diameter, but the 205/50-16s are about 1/3" over stock - take your pick. Look in my garage for a pic of the 205/45-16s on the car

03-20-2007, 08:24 AM	#12
nurburgring ringmeister Drives: YARIS 1.5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 80	I dont get it! +38 rims have lesser offset than +45 , which means..... the +38 is being pushed out more towards the fenders. I dont get it, when u say +38 wont rub, but +45 will, unless u are talking about rubbing on the inside of the tire against the suspension components. Please clarify. Thank You. An extreme example is illustrated below... sorry for the 1 minute drawing. By the way, large orange font, whats your ET ? You rub a little, so I figured if I could give it a bit more positive offset, it shld do the trick.

03-20-2007, 11:23 AM	#14
PetersRedYaris View User's Garage Drives: 2005 Scion xB Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Black Hills of South Dakota Posts: 1,059	[QUOTE=nurburgring;64643]I dont get it! +38 rims have lesser offset than +45 , which means..... the +38 is being pushed out more towards the fenders. I dont get it, when u say +38 wont rub, but +45 will, unless u are talking about rubbing on the inside of the tire against the suspension components. Please clarify. Thank You. [QUOTE] Thats correct, +45 may rub on the inside, and +38 nearly rubs on the outside. This is why it is recommended to get something between these measurments using them as a minimum and maximum. For a 7 inch wide wheel I would go with a +38 to +40. For a 7.5 inch wide wheel I would go with +42 or +45. Keep in mind were talking about a diffreence of 7mm from minimum to maximum offset, which is not much. If you don't know, 10 millimeters = 1 centimeter, and 7mm = .27 inches, so about 1/4 inch difference.

03-20-2007, 12:36 PM	#16
nurburgring ringmeister Drives: YARIS 1.5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 80	Thank You. I've been confused for the longest time. To play it safe, I might just go for the rarer 195/50R16s