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Old 09-18-2012, 12:39 PM   #1
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One can pay $7000 - 8,000 for a Chinese product and hope the drive train will last for 4 years.

Or pay more for a Toyota product knowing it will last for 20+ years.

Thats the past. The future might be different.

If you would have told me when I bought my Yaris three years ago Id be replacing the waterpump under warranty at ~ 25k miles I wouldnt have believed it.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:45 PM   #2
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The Chinese have a very steep learning curve and the quality of their cars will quickly rival the others.

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Old 09-18-2012, 03:13 PM   #3
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Thats the past. The future might be different.

If you would have told me when I bought my Yaris three years ago Id be replacing the waterpump under warranty at ~ 25k miles I wouldnt have believed it.
A waterpump going sour at 25k is one thing.

An engine sucking a valve at 25k is another.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:35 PM   #4
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A waterpump going sour at 25k is one thing.

An engine sucking a valve at 25k is another.

A water pump failure at this point is totally unacceptable from a car maker like Toyota.

If they dont fix this problem I will be entertaining all options come new car time.

Yes a dropped valve is a bad thing.

But its in the past and near present and not the future.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:03 AM   #5
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" A water pump failure at this point is totally unacceptable from a car maker like Toyota. "

Agree . Had a '86 Corolla with 240,000+ miles and never an issue with a water pump . Had to get the alternator rebuilt twice and did the removal / install . The alternator had well over 100,000 both times it failed . The cost was reasonable as well . Ain't what they used to be .
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:27 AM   #6
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" A water pump failure at this point is totally unacceptable from a car maker like Toyota. "

Agree . Had a '86 Corolla with 240,000+ miles and never an issue with a water pump . Had to get the alternator rebuilt twice and did the removal / install . The alternator had well over 100,000 both times it failed . The cost was reasonable as well . Ain't what they used to be .
I wonder if Bronsin got what my dad used to call "a Friday car" or "a Monday car". I think I got "a Wednesday car" --- over 226k on my original water pump and my first alternator lasted 159k......and the replacement is still going strong.
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:18 AM   #7
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" A water pump failure at this point is totally unacceptable from a car maker like Toyota. "

Agree . Had a '86 Corolla with 240,000+ miles and never an issue with a water pump . Had to get the alternator rebuilt twice and did the removal / install . The alternator had well over 100,000 both times it failed . The cost was reasonable as well . Ain't what they used to be .
Did the Corolla's head gasket hold up any better? If memory serves, didn't your Yaris head gasket already fail? I think it sprang an oil leak...
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" Did the Corolla's head gasket hold up any better? "

Yes , original engine and tranny . Starting burning large amount of oil and put her down . Figure the rings went .

" If memory serves, didn't your Yaris head gasket already fail? I think it sprang an oil leak... "

Yes , all is fine since the repair . It's a love / hate relationship with the sedan . Everyone or everything has its days . Keeping it until the day it craps out .
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