aem fic on an N/A motor?

[1.5]

I disagree. You can absolutely make fine tune adjustments using a managements system by adjusting timing, A/F ratio, etc. It won't necessarily create power but it will free up some power.

I will agree with fnkngrv it will most likely not be worth the amount of money you will spend to purchase/install/tune. I have short ram/headers/exahaust/ssk just like you and I want to pretty much go the same path as you. At our stage now we could possibly gain ~10whp out of the current mods by going with a management system. The question is, is ~$1000 worth ~10whp?

There are still other mods you can do going N/A that will give you a few more ponies and if combined with the management will free up even more power. 1zz tb, cams (although these will greatly change your torque curve), the new MI IM when it's released, pulley, gutting your rear. Adding these other mods will help a little and when that is fine tuned with a management system you deff can release some nice power. Not all of these will generate new power can help applying power to the ground.

Also don't forget how light our cars are and a dozen or so hp could make a very noticeable imporovement.

[fnkngrv]

Originally Posted by 1.5

I disagree. You can absolutely make fine tune adjustments using a managements system by adjusting timing, A/F ratio, etc. It won't necessarily create power but it will free up some power.

The key to this statement is "management system". The FIC is not a management system. It very well may behoove to go full standalone even if you aren't going to go FI. Jason can attest to that one along with those shifting elements he is talking about. At least with a full standalone as well you get to bump the rev limiter beyond the very conservative 6250. In this case since you are increasing your band I would think that it would deliver you better performance especially if you install a lighter weight flywheel and clutch assembly because you will build those RPMs faster. There are always folks looking to sell used standalone systems like the AEM EMS systems since the version 4 has come out. You could quite possibly get a decent deal on a V3 or even V2. Just a thought.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

The key to this statement is "management system". The FIC is not a management system. It very well may behoove to go full standalone even if you aren't going to go FI. Jason can attest to that one along with those shifting elements he is talking about. At least with a full standalone as well you get to bump the rev limiter beyond the very conservative 6250. In this case since you are increasing your band I would think that it would deliver you better performance especially if you install a lighter weight flywheel and clutch assembly because you will build those RPMs faster. There are always folks looking to sell used standalone systems like the AEM EMS systems since the version 4 has come out. You could quite possibly get a decent deal on a V3 or even V2. Just a thought.

I am not familiar with the FIC. However, I do know prior to going with the AEM EMS 2 we successfully made power with the Camcon unit - the car never readjusted to the changes we made with it, and did not lose power over time. The limit to the Camcon was only being able to tune within certain RPM windows (500rpm steps), and we could not get past the stock 6500rpm rev limiter, the EMS gave us more flexibility and ultimately more power.

The hot setup on a budget is finding a Camcon, they seem to go for around $300, and for another $300 in dyno time you can make solid hp/tq increases. But if you really want to uncork what is already in the engine you need something like the AEM EMS.