Do Backup Cameras Protect You?

[fnkngrv]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

......which is how I look at the existence of power windows .

Power windows are critical....just imagine if you had crank windows in the space shuttle!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

Power windows are critical....just imagine if you had crank windows in the space shuttle!

- a good one. But, to each his own. I'm in the minority, but other members ALSO prefer hand crank windows to power windows.

[DebbyM46227]

I prefer hand-crank windows too!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by DebbyM46227

I prefer hand-crank windows too!

And I know we are not alone! If I remember correctly, there was a past thread that veered () into a hand crank vs. power window discussion, with a fair number of us preferring hand crank windows (for various reasons).

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

And I know we are not alone! If I remember correctly, there was a past thread that veered () into a hand crank vs. power window discussion, with a fair number of us preferring hand crank windows (for various reasons).

I don't know if Tooter has seen this thread, but he just posted on a keyless entry thread that he really likes (among other things) his hand crank windows .

[TPA5]

Originally Posted by DebbyM46227

I've driven and survived many years without back-up cameras. Just another way for the NANNY Govt. to act like they have to protect us. I also survived riding in the car without a car seat, riding my bikes and roller skating without ugly helmuts and all that padding.

Isn't it the car manufacturers who put them in? As far as I know, it's a feature, not a law.

I'm going to have to say that car-seats and helmets = a good idea. I've had friends who've nearly had scrambled brains from not using a helmet, and if the child is small they need a car seat. I see people riding without kids in car seats here and that goes beyond irresponsible.

[DebbyM46227]

Well, it's the law here now that kids have to be in car seats, but it wasn't when I was a kid.

[screenprintr]

What's this have to do with Backup Cameras?

[detroiter]

No, they are just for people who are too damn lazy to look over their shoulder...

[TPA5]

Originally Posted by DebbyM46227

Well, it's the law here now that kids have to be in car seats, but it wasn't when I was a kid.

Off topic, but I gotta say the whole car-seats thing should be law. Nobody wants to see their kid catapulting out the front window in a car accident, and seats in cars these days aren't designed for passengers that are as small and light as a child.

[bronsin]

How could we be so DUMB not to put kids in car seats until ~ 1980?

I wonder what the death/injury rate for children in car accidents was before that?

I wonder what it is now?

Were we really dumb then or just safety paranoid now?

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

How could we be so DUMB not to put kids in car seats until ~ 1980?

I wonder what the death/injury rate for children in car accidents was before that?

I wonder what it is now?

Were we really dumb then or just safety paranoid now?

In retrospect, it seems dumb. However, I think it is more being unenlightened -- not having the knowledge yet as a society or it just not having made it's way even marginally into the mainstream. Recommendations might change over a fairly short period of time. I remember when my little cousin first wanted to use the rings in the play area when I'd take her to the park. Her mom would have me hold her torso (so she wouldn't be hanging or stretching by all her weight -- and she's never been overweight) as she'd move along the rings (until she was a certain age) because doctors told her one risks some sort of damage to the area where your upper arm connects to your shoulder if you use the rings before a certain age without support diminishing the pull. The doctor said this was true in general, as my little cousin was (and is) healthy. My little cousin was born in 2002. I don't remember this being the case with my godson nor either of his siblings (the eldest a girl), born in 1997, 1999, and 2000, to an equally protective, 'dialed in', and well educated mother in the same 'medical community' (San Francisco).

[why?]

the more information people have, the more they think people need to be sheltered and protected from the world.

The things we used to do as kids on bikes would have the local nanny police today running and screaming to ban bicycles. Seriously, i did a 360 in mid air and then unfortunately landed square on one of my legs. I got up and walked away. Nowadays some lunatic overprotective dolt would force me to sit not moving while they called for an ambulance.

People are not cynical enough about new so called 'safety' features. Even today, the average person doesn't believe an airbag can murder a human being, even though it has happened countless times.

The more tech in a car, the more can go wrong. My mothers Murano has developed a flaw whereby the driver side window refuses to go all the way up. It was replaced once, and then a year later started happening again.

my hand crank windows have never refused to stay fully closed.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by why?

my hand crank windows have never refused to stay fully closed.

And in an accident or if you go underwater will always go down....

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

And in an accident or if you go underwater will always go down....

.....I just remember hearing a couple of horror stories from the period after the little lock/unlock 'stalks' moved from the top corner of door sills to the middle of the door and no longer had 'heads' to grab onto. The couple of horror stories I heard involved people getting vapor locks and then freaking out because they'd grab the 'headless stalk' and it would slip through their fingers (and the windows were all the way up). They 'rectified' the situation by managing to break a window. These people may have been overreacting, but it still gives me pause (even though I know I have the strength to easily break a window).

The situation Why?'s mother has encountered is not 'unheard of', and certainly not limited to Nissans.

Also, type 'power window stopped working' into almost any search engine .

[bronsin]

Even if you break the window you get to have your back and tummy scratched by broken glass!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by why?

People are not cynical enough

......in the U.S. about many things they should be more cynical about. If people were appropriately cynical, those in positions of power over large entities whose motives are less than altruistic, wouldn't be able to complete their agendas as easily.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by detroiter

No, they are just for people who are too damn lazy to look over their shoulder...

I was at my local Toyota dealership earlier this evening, and I saw two items that would help re safety looking to the rear and beyond. Both are mirrors, same general style, one is just larger than the other. All of the 'text' on each box is in Japanese. However, each box has one international mounting diagram on the outside of the box. It appears (with each) that there is a slot in the back of the casing of each mirror that allows the whole enclosure to slide over and in front of the stock mirror. I may look into this further and get one or something similar. The smaller one was $14.99, and the larger one a bit more When I had my GTI, I took the visors off and put in a wink mirror that stretched all the way across, above the windshield. I really liked the extra visibility that mirror afforded me.