Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[sqcomp]

BAM! Check my response to the jackwagon "running" the show on the original thread...

[_S7V7N_]

I see some feelings being hurt after reading that. Lollll. Hate mail in your Pm box over at Diyma in your near future. Lolllll

[_S7V7N_]

Rolmfaooooooo @ Sq. My fav response is " you can go !_=-+#*()/%$'" yourself.

Lollllll. You're gonna get banned bro if you keep on.

[derickveliz2]

Lets see what happens, my story it's even more interesting now.

The idea of judging blind folded is excellent!!! makes a lot of sense.

I want to become a SQ judge!

D.

[sqcomp]

I never posted D's name...what I did to was to take these knuckle draggers to task. There really is no excuse for not giving a score sheet within 24-48 hours of the event. They just don't like criticism. That's all.

Heck, even the HAT team captain told me I was right on with my comments.

[sqcomp]

Post the score sheet D!!!!

Let's discuss!

I'll start...Sir, you should have been placed in the Amateur class. Your up front sub is okay as long as it retains the OEM look. Especially at a little local show like that. Someone did you wrong by placing you into pro/am in your very first show.

[derickveliz2]

So here is what I wrote at the other forum...

D.

[derickveliz2]

First I just want to say I'm a happy man :)
and I'm very sorry to create such a chain reaction...

Well... 2nd, I would like to thank everybody for the event it was great!

I just got the score sheets today! "Thank you" x100000000000

This was my first event but not the last one. (even though I don't consider my car a competition car, more a selfish commuter car that sounds great)

I started this adventure in 2009 when I wanted to add a subwoofer to my OEM Head Unit in my little Yaris, and didn't had a clue about Sound Quality, x-over points, T/A, image and stage, etc, etc.
I learned everything by trial and error, so just been at this event is a big thing for me.

A couple of years ago I contacted xxxxxxxx, I asked him that I wanted to listen to a SQ-car because I was trying to accomplish some thing I didn't had an idea of what Sound Quality in a car was all about. He put together a few meets and we had a lot of fun and I learned a bunch of stuff.
Thanks xxxxxxxx you are a good friend.

I appreciate the feedback from the judges specially about how my system sounds and how I should use RTA to make it sound better

:)

I did have a issue, and I'm not blaming anyone or the system, it's nobody's fault and like a good friend said... you got to play the game...

-"it's about the size of the judges", (with all the respect the we deserve) as soon I met them I knew I wasn't going to get an accurate reading of my stage, but I'm fine with that, thats the way it is.

A friend of mine told me "that's why Mids in a-pillars are good" so you don't have that kind of issues.

-But like I said before I really appreciate the feedback of the judges in particular on how to use RTA as a tuning tool, (all my system has been tuned by ear only) and for the road, so I knew where I was going to get hit, and that was the purpose of my trip, to really see where I was compare to professionals like you.
I was afraid to go inside one of your cars and go... "Wow! what did you do to make it sound like that"
it's like the finish line at the 100 meters, there's the first place, second and so on until the last guy crosses the line... that doesn't means that the last guy is slow by any chance.


I would like to thank you guys for letting me hear your systems and share your expertise, it was too bad I had to leave early and didn't had the chance to listen to all the cars at the show. (next time... do it on a Saturday) lol

Also I would like thank yyyyyyyyy for taking the time to sit in my car and check my system, his input... same as the judges was "PRICELESS"

and what you guys do for these kind of events, I bet there is so much going on, I wish I could do one around here, that would be so cool.


Here are my score sheets that I will hang on the wall with a big happy face:
Thank you everybody. keep up the good work and if there is anything I can help, just let me know... Derick





D.

[derickveliz2]

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D.

[sqcomp]

Notice the scores on imaging and linearity? They need to give you feedback as to why you scored like that.

Again, the rules permit you to be in the amateur class. Why they put you in pro/am on your very first competition is beyond me. That class is for peeps who have played the game for a few years.

The next time to enter SQc, circle amateur. This is absolutely the highest you should compete a right now...IMHO.

The following, I will say as someone who has walked the path before...

We can do better than 206. Also know that this is a local show with amateur judges at best. Hell, they didn't even write the name down of the judge on the IASCA sheet. I know your vehicle can do 230+. I know, I've done it.

[sqcomp]

Now, tell us about the criticism on your mid bass and sub. Does the enclosure unload on you? When they say the mid bass is bloated, that is an easy fix with the P-99 between 125-400 Hz. Look at dialing the 250-ish Hz freqs down by 3 dB and listen to the difference in "bloating".

[sqcomp]

Back again to the sub...I'm not surprised about the criticism about it not having sub bass presence. Even Buwalda's G35 takes a nose dive under 30 Hz. The Jurassic Lunch track killed his car at CES in 2011. I know...I'm the one that did it.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Back again to the sub...I'm not surprised about the criticism about it not having sub bass presence. Even Buwalda's G35 takes a nose dive under 30 Hz. The Jurassic Lunch track killed his car at CES in 2011. I know...I'm the one that did it.

When he told me about the sub bass, I said... "well the little 6" does really good for it's size." and he looked at me... you mean you don't have a big sub in the trunk? I replied... "no... just the little 6 up front!" he thought it was a pillow down there, until he touched it.

at the end he said... "very impressive little 6"

D.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Notice the scores on imaging and linearity? They need to give you feedback as to why you scored like that.

Again, the rules permit you to be in the amateur class. Why they put you in pro/am on your very first competition is beyond me. That class is for peeps who have played the game for a few years.

The next time to enter SQc, circle amateur. This is absolutely the highest you should compete a right now...IMHO.

The following, I will say as someone who has walked the path before...

We can do better than 206. Also know that this is a local show with amateur judges at best. Hell, they didn't even write the name down of the judge on the IASCA sheet. I know your vehicle can do 230+. I know, I've done it.

I did, but here is where it comes to precision "sweet spot" and these guys are a lot taller than me, I bet without knowing they block the direct path between left Mid to left ear with their leg/foot, besides that because in the difference in height between them and me, their ears weren't at the sweet spot location, this completely shifts the stage to the right and screws up the image and linearity.

one judge said that the center image was to the left, sure if he blocks the left Mid, I know for a fact that the center image shifts to the right. and I remember what you wrote to me... that is why Mids in a-pillars are good, so this is not an issue any more... "Play the game"

judge #2 tells me that left is about 1 inch inside the a-pillar, OK, at this point I want to cut my veins... and/or my ears are not working properly... but then I think, there is a tweeter beyond outside the a-pillar so what's going on... again I bet the difference in height was about 6-8 inches and with big legs and foot blocking the Mid,... yes the left side of the stage may sound like inside the a-pillar.

now I maybe crazy but at the sweet spot and not blocking the left Mid... the Left isn't inside the a-pillar... and the center is not towards the right...
that is why I had one of the best guys at the show (that happens to be my height) try the sweet spot inside the Yaris and he was very impressed! he also explain to me a little bit how to level the EQ using RTA.

I know about the "Class" issue, I read the rules but they didn't let me choose in the class I wanted to participate. It was funny one guy complained that he was set as amateur by mistake!

I'm sure 206 is under rated, specially with the issues I described above.

Now I have to learn how to RTA, buy a mic and get a good software! and...

It's not for competition, it's for me, in the pursuit of the BEST SOUND for "my self"


D.

[sqcomp]

Cool...

This is the part where you need to walk in like a boss next time...

You are in amateur class Derick. These ass clowns DO NOT get to choose a class for you. This is a damn good example of bad management of the show. At the next show, circle amateur class. They don't choose for you.

[why?]

wow, just read that diyma thread. Those people are pathetic excuses for humanity. That thread just reeks of making excuses and acting like immature losers.

Derick, you are just too nice.

[_S7V7N_]

I was very close too makin an account om that site. They woulda been typing with there elbows after i was done.

Why go to CA.com. they go apesh!t on damn near every post.

[alfredyeez]

Congrates Derick