What do you think about Russia and the Crimea. Interested in your opinion.

[MickZEL]

On Saturday, November 10, 2012 in 15 states have addressed the Obama administration to withdraw from the United States to establish their own government .


States after this action include: Louisiana, Texas, Montana, North Dakota , Indiana, Mississippi , Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon and New York . These states have demanded that the Obama administration has granted the right to a peaceful outcome to the United States.

These petitions were filed in just a few days after the 2012 presidential election .

Louisiana became the first state petition . It was recorded the day after the election , Mr. Michael E. of Slidell, Louisiana. Texas was the next state , followed by a petition from Mr. Micah H. from Arlington , Texas.

Government allocates one month from the date of submission of the application to collect 25,000 signatures to the Obama administration to consider the request.

This article I found on the Internet. Is that true?

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by MickZEL

On Saturday, November 10, 2012 in 15 states have addressed the Obama administration to withdraw from the United States to establish their own government .


States after this action include: Louisiana, Texas, Montana, North Dakota , Indiana, Mississippi , Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon and New York . These states have demanded that the Obama administration has granted the right to a peaceful outcome to the United States.

These petitions were filed in just a few days after the 2012 presidential election .

Louisiana became the first state petition . It was recorded the day after the election , Mr. Michael E. of Slidell, Louisiana. Texas was the next state , followed by a petition from Mr. Micah H. from Arlington , Texas.

Government allocates one month from the date of submission of the application to collect 25,000 signatures to the Obama administration to consider the request.

This article I found on the Internet. Is that true?

It doesn't matter......not going to happen. Just like some people wanting to impeach Obama......not going to happen.

Re Texas.....The U.S. needs Texas, and Texas needs (as a whole) the U.S.

There are over 3,000 counties in the United States. I live in Montgomery County, Texas. It is directly north of Harris County, which contains the city of Houston. Many consider Montgomery the most conservative county in Texas (the last time the Democrat nominee for POTUS captured more than 50 % of the vote was in 1964). Some consider it the 3rd most conservative county in the United States (after #1 Willamson County, Tennessee (southwest of Nashville....which is also the wealthiest county in the U.S., re per capita income when adjusted for cost of living) and #2 Gwinnett County, Georgia (east of Atlanta)).

Part of Montgomery County is rural, but it also has a large corporate presence. Population wise, Between 2000 and 2010 (Census years here in the U.S.), Montgomery County was the 24th fastest growing county in the United States. The Woodlands grew at an even faster rate during that period than the county as a whole. In 2000, among the places with the highest median household income in the U.S. with a population of 50,000 or more, The Woodlands was # 13 . IIRC, among the 'Relovilles' in the U.S., The Woodlands is second to #1 Alpharetta, Georgia re the number of residents born out of state (at 58 %).

The point I'm trying to make is that people from all over, engaged in many different endeavors, live here in Montgomery County -- and that it is a very pro-growth, pro-business place.

Why illustrate this? I think a mixture of what I have illustrated drives a frustration that needed an outlet.

What was the outlet? The day after the 2012 election I visited the United States Postal Service office in The Woodlands Town Center (I needed to mail a package). There is a law/regulation (State? Federal?) that signs pertaining to Politics (and perhaps other issues) must be a certain distance away from a 'Public' place. At that time I was conscious of that distance (I no longer remember the measurement...it was mentioned in a newspaper article). Near the Post Office (a few inches on the correct side of what was permissible) was a poster of Obama with a Hitler style moustache drawn on his upper lip. No text. Just the picture.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by MickZEL

On Saturday, November 10, 2012 in 15 states have addressed the Obama administration to withdraw from the United States to establish their own government .


States after this action include: Louisiana, Texas, Montana, North Dakota , Indiana, Mississippi , Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon and New York . These states have demanded that the Obama administration has granted the right to a peaceful outcome to the United States.

These petitions were filed in just a few days after the 2012 presidential election .

Louisiana became the first state petition . It was recorded the day after the election , Mr. Michael E. of Slidell, Louisiana. Texas was the next state , followed by a petition from Mr. Micah H. from Arlington , Texas.

Government allocates one month from the date of submission of the application to collect 25,000 signatures to the Obama administration to consider the request.

This article I found on the Internet. Is that true?

Probably. But these people are idiots. Yes 25,000 signed a petition to seceed.

But the rest of the 20,000,000 in each state DIDNT sign it!

And in your country if you did such a thing you get put in the gulag!

Putin is getting your country in a lot of trouble with the rest of the world. 100 nations in the UN voted to condem Russia's action in Ukrain. 60 voted to abstain. Yet the forgiegn minister said "This looks promising for us and we expect more people to join us." He is seriously wrong about that!

Leave the Ukrainians alone. You can still have access to the naval base in the Crimea.If Russia keeps it up no one will invest there. Youre already out of the G8. Youre going to be on the outside looking in with no where to grow your economy.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Probably. But these people are idiots. Yes 25,000 signed a petition to seceed.

But the rest of the 20,000,000 in each state DIDNT sign it!

And in your country if you did such a thing you get put in the gulag!

Putin is getting your country in a lot of trouble with the rest of the world. 100 nations in the UN voted to condem Russia's action in Ukrain. 60 voted to abstain. Yet the forgiegn minister said "This looks promising for us and we expect more people to join us." He is seriously wrong about that!

Leave the Ukrainians alone. You can still have access to the naval base in the Crimea.If Russia keeps it up no one will invest there. Youre already out of the G8. Youre going to be on the outside looking in with no where to grow your economy.

You are a great mix of being pointed, focused, and blunt......with tremendous humor injected that accentuates all three. Don't change! (Could you, even if you wanted to ?....Naaaah). The world needs more of this.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

You are a great mix of being pointed, focused, and blunt......with tremendous humor injected that accentuates all three. Don't change! (Could you, even if you wanted to ?....Naaaah). The world needs more of this.

The world can get more of that by buying my book The Storys at Outskirtspress.com or look on Amazon or Nook!

[MickZEL]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Probably. But these people are idiots. Yes 25,000 signed a petition to seceed.

But the rest of the 20,000,000 in each state DIDNT sign it!

And in your country if you did such a thing you get put in the gulag!

Putin is getting your country in a lot of trouble with the rest of the world. 100 nations in the UN voted to condem Russia's action in Ukrain. 60 voted to abstain. Yet the forgiegn minister said "This looks promising for us and we expect more people to join us." He is seriously wrong about that!

Leave the Ukrainians alone. You can still have access to the naval base in the Crimea.If Russia keeps it up no one will invest there. Youre already out of the G8. Youre going to be on the outside looking in with no where to grow your economy.

Putin has done for Russia : • Over 12 years of Putin Russia has increased the budget by 22 times , military spending - 30 times GDP - 12 times ( Russia jumped from 36th place in the world in terms of GDP 2nd place) • Increased international reserves 48 times ! • returned 256 mineral deposits in the Russian jurisdiction • ripped bonded "liberal" in the history of the production sharing agreement . • 65% nationalized the oil industry and 95% of gas and many other industries . • raised the industry and agriculture ( Russian for 5 consecutive years ranked 2-3 in the world grain exports , surpassing the U.S. , which are now on the 4th place). • increase the average salary in the public sector to 18.5 times in 12 years , while the average pension - 14 times. • Well, it is quite a small thing : Putin (he ) has lowered the extinction of the Russian population with 1.5 million people per year in 1999 to 21 thousand in 2011 , ie 71.5 times . • In addition , Putin canceled Khasavyurt agreement - than defended the integrity of Russia, gave publicity to NGOs - the fifth column and banned MPs have an account abroad , defended Syria, end the war in Chechnya and returned to Crimea ! !

I think that such a leader can be respected.
Russia does not want Ukraine.
Russia simply returned back their land.
What would you say if Obama gave one state to another state?

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by MickZEL

Putin has done for Russia : • Over 12 years of Putin Russia has increased the budget by 22 times

If you had a true free market economy, that wouldn't be a good thing.

( Russia jumped from 36th place in the world in terms of GDP 2nd place)

No it didn't. The last figures were published in October of 2013 for 2012 and re Nominal GDP Russia ranks 8th in the world and 6th in the world re GDP PPP (Purchasing Power Parity GDP)

65% nationalized the oil industry and 95% of gas and many other industries

And just why is that a positive development?

increase the average salary in the public sector to 18.5 times in 12 years

If you had a free market economy, that wouldn't be a good thing.

Russia does not want Ukraine.

I think you are being naive. Putin has said that the worst thing that happened during the 20th century was the fall of the Soviet Union.



If the Russian way of running a country is so great, then why don't Americans want to migrate to Russia rather than the other way around?