Yaris sales hit new low...

[Thirty-Nine]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

After reading JuicyJosh's post I was mulling over my response. No need. You hit the nail on the head.

QFT!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

QFT!

..........well, I just increased slumping sales by one. As of last Friday 8/8/14 the customizable cars.com search engine (that roxy1 posted a link to a while back.....can pull the Yaris inventory for the whole united states) showed 22 manual transmission 2014 Yari (3 SE and 19 L). Seven of the L = in my preferred colors of White and Silver..... 4 in Florida, 1 in Tennessee, 1 in Ohio, and one in Illinois (in Naperville, where another YW member bought a 2014). Only 3 of the 7 = discounting anything off off the base MSRP...Toyota of Lakewood in FL, Royal Palm Toyota in FL (55 miles farther north), and the dealer in Naperville, IL. I honed in on the cheapest listing, posted by Toyota of Lakewood. It's still listed (at least as of a 1/2 hour or so ago) on cars.com with lots of pics ()...but it's not available. I'm in Dunedin, FL right now and I just parked it a few minutes ago.


The $12,866 on my car on cars.com = the $1,564 off the $14,430 base sticker MSRP..adding the 860.00 'destination' (on the MFR sticker on all new cars) = $13,720. In comparison, Royal Palm's Silver 3door = $13,888 ($542 off the $14,430 base MSRP) + 860.00 destination = $14,748...and the Naperville, IL dealer's $14,444 on cars.com does include destination, so = $13,584 + 860.00 desdination = $14,444. This Naperville, IL car has been sitting there since March 2014.

The car I bought had TDIO (Toyota Distributor Installed Options ) included on the factory sticker (but listed separately from the base MSRP and the 'destination' that is on all facrory stickers). Toyota only has two remaining independently owned distributors--Southeast Toyota, and Gulf States Toyota--covering a total of 10 U.S. states. My car has a TDIO package (listed on the original MFG sticker) that retailed for $946.00 and I negotiated that down to $790.00. My TDIO package original priced included -- #1 - $399 for the rear spoiler (something I like, and would have cost $435 if I had it put on at my local Toyota dealer in TX), #2 - $299 - for the 4 floor mats (a total rip off...I look at the $156.00 discount I negotiated off the package as coming off of this...the 4 floor mats on my 2007 = on the factory sticker as an option = about $150.00. #3 - $199 for film -- same idea as the 3M Clear Bra, but also included 3 additional areas (each door, and the 'load sill'/top of the rear bumper), and #4 - $49 for a Connection Package - 4 items - Apple 30 pin cable, Apple Lightening cable, a USB micro or mini cable, and a 12v USB plug). The Royal Palm car didn't have the TDIO/Spoiler pkg, and of course the Illinois car didn't because Illinois is not one of the 10 states that is covered by the independent distributors (Southeast and Gulf States).

A dealer PAC sticker of about 1k (..the existence of PAC stickers has p****d me off since I was a little kid) was added to the car when the dealer put it in inventory. It included a pinstripe with lifetime reapplication, lifetime nitrogen for the tires, and a few other things I can't think of off the top of my head. Adding that PAC sticker to the price must have completely went out the window when they put it on cars.com. I didn't expect them to include the PAC sticker items as benefits to me (because they never tried to add even $1 re those items), but the benefits were included (good idea on their part...potentially generates foot traffic at a pretty low cost).

The rest = sales tax (at the higher TX rate in my zip code), licensing, titling, etc (300+, IIRC, total in addition to the sales tax (the government fees = ). The total out the door/including all (above) was $15,990. They let me put $5,000 on Visa to get the Frequent Flier miles (I'd already put a $5k payment on my card (separate from the balance I pay off every month)...creating a way less than zero balance...to represent the charge. This was the most any dealer has let me do (dealer feeling re VISA transaction fees = ). When I bought my blue Yaris, the dealer let me do the same thing, but only for $2,000 OR $2,500 (I can't remember which). I did a bank guaranteed check for the other $10,990. All in all, I'm satisfied. I'm heading back to Texas tomorrow.

P.S. I was going to drive to Florida and sell my blue Yaris to Carmax (or to the dealer if they offered me more), but over the weekend I asked myself why....because I can't fit both into my garage?.....because insurance might be a bit more?...I decided these were dumb reasons (and I later learned the iinsurance increase = $150 something per year). I decided to keep my blue Yaris (I'll reevaluate as needed re repairs...no repairs needed at this time...but on the horizon). I redeemed a small portion of my mileage balance and flew to Florida instead.

^^^^^ Added P.S. on 8-13-2014


P.P.S. - On 9-9-2014 I got a refund check from the dealership for the amount they overcharged me for the sales tax and the titling -- the check was for $312.77 ---- This reduced my out the door cost to $15,677.23

[marcar72]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

..........well, I just increased slumping sales by one. As of last Friday 8/8/14 ...

Hey congratulations! Good for you! I got my 2014 L manual out the door from Libertyville, IL for $15,872 so you did real good!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by marcar72

Hey congradulations! Good for you! I got my 2014 L manual out the door from Libertyville, IL for $15,872 so you did real good!

Thanks!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

:because insurance might be a bit more?...I decided these were dumb reasons (and I later learned the iinsurance increase = $150 something per year).

I just got the hard copy/declarations page in the mail yesterday, and the increase turned out to be less....$140.00 per year more to insure two, rather than one.

P.S. I was at AAA anyway late this afternoon. so I chatted with an agent re recent mailings. Turns out the system wasn't reading that my 2014 = a new car, so the added amount for the second car is even less...$128.00 per year rather than $140.00.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

..........well, I just increased slumping sales by one. As of last Friday 8/8/14 the customizable cars.com search engine (that roxy1 posted a link to a while back.....can pull the Yaris inventory for the whole united states) showed 22 manual transmission 2014 Yari (3 SE and 19 L). Seven of the L = in my preferred colors of White and Silver..... 4 in Florida, 1 in Tennessee, 1 in Ohio, and one in Illinois (in Naperville, where another YW member bought a 2014). Only 3 of the 7 = discounting anything off off the base MSRP...Toyota of Lakewood in FL, Royal Palm Toyota in FL (55 miles farther north), and the dealer in Naperville, IL. I honed in on the cheapest listing, posted by Toyota of Lakewood. It's still listed (at least as of a 1/2 hour or so ago) on cars.com with lots of pics ()...but it's not available. I'm in Dunedin, FL right now and I just parked it a few minutes ago.


The $12,866 on my car on cars.com = the $1,564 off the $14,430 base sticker MSRP..adding the 860.00 'destination' (on the MFR sticker on all new cars) = $13,720. In comparison, Royal Palm's Silver 3door = $13,888 ($542 off the $14,430 base MSRP) + 860.00 destination = $14,748...and the Naperville, IL dealer's $14,444 on cars.com does include destination, so = $13,584 + 860.00 desdination = $14,444. This Naperville, IL car has been sitting there since March 2014.

The car I bought had TDIO (Toyota Distributor Installed Options ) included on the factory sticker (but listed separately from the base MSRP and the 'destination' that is on all facrory stickers). Toyota only has two remaining independently owned distributors--Southeast Toyota, and Gulf States Toyota--covering a total of 10 U.S. states. My car has a TDIO package (listed on the original MFG sticker) that retailed for $946.00 and I negotiated that down to $790.00. My TDIO package original priced included -- #1 - $399 for the rear spoiler (something I like, and would have cost $435 if I had it put on at my local Toyota dealer in TX), #2 - $299 - for the 4 floor mats (a total rip off...I look at the $156.00 discount I negotiated off the package as coming off of this...the 4 floor mats on my 2007 = on the factory sticker as an option = about $150.00. #3 - $199 for film -- same idea as the 3M Clear Bra, but also included 3 additional areas (each door, and the 'load sill'/top of the rear bumper), and #4 - $49 for a Connection Package - 4 items - Apple 30 pin cable, Apple Lightening cable, a USB micro or mini cable, and a 12v USB plug). The Royal Palm car didn't have the TDIO/Spoiler pkg, and of course the Illinois car didn't because Illinois is not one of the 10 states that is covered by the independent distributors (Southeast and Gulf States).

A dealer PAC sticker of about 1k (..the existence of PAC stickers has p****d me off since I was a little kid) was added to the car when the dealer put it in inventory. It included a pinstripe with lifetime reapplication, lifetime nitrogen for the tires, and a few other things I can't think of off the top of my head. Adding that PAC sticker to the price must have completely went out the window when they put it on cars.com. I didn't expect them to include the PAC sticker items as benefits to me (because they never tried to add even $1 re those items), but the benefits were included (good idea on their part...potentially generates foot traffic at a pretty low cost).

The rest = sales tax (at the higher TX rate in my zip code), licensing, titling, etc (300+, IIRC, total in addition to the sales tax (the government fees = ). The total out the door/including all (above) was $15,990. They let me put $5,000 on Visa to get the Frequent Flier miles (I'd already put a $5k payment on my card (separate from the balance I pay off every month)...creating a way less than zero balance...to represent the charge. This was the most any dealer has let me do (dealer feeling re VISA transaction fees = ). When I bought my blue Yaris, the dealer let me do the same thing, but only for $2,000 OR $2,500 (I can't remember which). I did a bank guaranteed check for the other $10,990. All in all, I'm satisfied. I'm heading back to Texas tomorrow.

P.S. I was going to drive to Florida and sell my blue Yaris to Carmax (or to the dealer if they offered me more), but over the weekend I asked myself why....because I can't fit both into my garage?.....because insurance might be a bit more?...I decided these were dumb reasons (and I later learned the iinsurance increase = $150 something per year). I decided to keep my blue Yaris (I'll reevaluate as needed re repairs...no repairs needed at this time...but on the horizon). I redeemed a small portion of my mileage balance and flew to Florida instead.

UPDATE: On 8/27/2014 I was finally (at the tax office for my county in Texas) able to see that my Yaris had been added to the TxDOT system (added on 8/25/2014). My local tax office said they were fine with the amount paid to the Florida Department of Revenue (reciprocal agreement between Texas and Florida), and that I didn't owe them any money. I noticed that the amount the dealer paid the Florida Departrment of Revenue was almost $250.00 less than they charged me . I also noticed that the title amount (which they sent to Texas) was less than what they collected from me . I was mainly concerned about getting the extra sales tax money back. I found evidence on an obscure PDF on the Florida Department of Revenue site re what they should have charged me (...if the car is to be titled out of state, then the tax rate for the 'to be titled in state' applies....in Texas FOR OTHER ITEMS = 6.25-8.25% depending (usually) on zip code...BUT Autos = 6.25% statewide), and also found out how to channel a complaint. However I decided to wait until the end of the month + about 7 business days to see if their accounting department would catch the error. In the interim, I got the plates (tax office in Texas mailed them to the dealer in Florida), but no check included. HOWEVER, I GOT THE REFUND CHECK TODAY. -- $312.77 -- This brings my OUT THE DOOR TOTAL TO $15,677.23.

They originally charged me 8.25% -- said they have a computerized system that goes by your zip code that arrived at this percentage (a dealer in Tennessee I spoke with uses the same system and said this is proper/following the law). Only problem = the company that developed this didn't get the amounts right. The dealer ended up paying the State of Florida re the rate for Manatee County (where the dealer is) --- 6.5% for the first $5,000.00 and 6% for the rest. They charged me over $1100. They paid the State of Florida $882.27, but should have paid them $857.12 (a straight 6.25% sales tax (Texas Auto Rate) re out of state titling)...a $25.15 difference. The $312.77 represented the sales tax difference between what they paid the State of Florida and what they charged me, PLUS the difference between what they charged me for what was listed as titling and what they paid for me here in Texas, PLUS $7.00. This left only an $18.15 difference re the sales taxtax. However, they undercharged me by $61.00 on the destination charge, but added a small title prep fee....so it all evened out in the end. I'm happy.

[Kal-El]

Delayed August sales update:

A measly 523 units sold! A new, new low. Down 82.5% from last August.

Remember, July saw 686 units sold.

Camry: 44,713 (1 month before new model!)
Corolla: 33,088

[UberSilver]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

Delayed August sales update:

A measly 523 units sold! A new, new low. Down 82.5% from last August.

Remember, July saw 686 units sold.

Camry: 44,713 (1 month before new model!)
Corolla: 33,088

Should be lots of dealers blowing them out, Cheap!