Toyota #1 for Owner Loyalty

[Runethecursed]

Last really great honda was the 07 model year accord v6 with the 6 speed.... after that they got bigger and slower :/

If i wanted to drive a slow car I would have bought one... oh wait

that said I agree, Toyota's styling lately has been "Eh, it works ish" at best, they need to hire out the guy doing the Hyundai's and make em do werke. as it where, even the Lexii arent as pretty as they could be. though regardless of looks that LC500 is damn sharp.

[Kalispel]

Originally Posted by Runethecursed

Last really great honda was the 07 model year accord v6 with the 6 speed.... after that they got bigger and slower :/

If i wanted to drive a slow car I would have bought one... oh wait

that said I agree, Toyota's styling lately has been "Eh, it works ish" at best, they need to hire out the guy doing the Hyundai's and make em do werke. as it where, even the Lexii arent as pretty as they could be. though regardless of looks that LC500 is damn sharp.

I agree with you on the Accord. The last Civic Si that I liked was the 2007-2011 generation (Coupe over Sedan, but liked them both), though there was a major engine flaw with the 2007-2008 resulting in a lot of cracked engine blocks (non-Si Civic engines), and manual transmission problems also with the 6-speed Si. That, and the numerous automatic transmission issues, brake issues, & oil-burning issues across their lines, finally convinced me to give up on the brand. The various bad styling was just ice on the tainted cake past that point. I really wanted to like the CR-Z hybrid (being a big CRX Si guy from back in the day), but it just looked horrible from all rear viewing angles. Ironically, my 2015 Yaris SE brought back the fond memories of my CRX Si days.

I really don't want to give up on the Yaris brand on my next car, but Toyota has ZERO passion or interest in the car for the U.S. market, and the dealerships compound the issues even further. Toyota does seem to have some zeal, however, for their upcoming 2019 Corolla/Auris hatchback model, which is encouraging. I do think it will still be fairly uncommon on the road versus the Corolla sedan, especially when the new global-platform Corolla sedan rolls out in 2020, and the sedan will continue to outsell the hatchback at the current x30 multiplier rate.