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Old 06-04-2007, 06:49 PM   #15
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I agree with this above post, driving a RWD car made for a little bit of abuse will teach you more about driving than a FWD car made with taking you to the grocery store and work and back. The Yaris isn't meant for this kind of thing and probably can never seriously compete without serious modifications.
Anything can be competaive locally. The MOST important part is that the car is well sorted. Something that you know is the case with a brand new Yaris. Something that is probally not the case with a 15 year old Miata. The biggest thing to learn from is seat time. It doesn't matter much what the car was built for, seat time is what really matters in learning.

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While that is true, I'll bet money you could put Michael Schumacher in a stock Yaris and he'd still get demolished by a teenager driving a stock Mini Cooper as long as said teen didn't crash or go off the track. No matter how much one may want to escape the fact, the Yaris is slow and is not made for racing by any means.
I might have been a little generous with the 95% driver. It could be 90% driver, 8% tires, 1 % car and 1% luck. Schumacher would be a bad choice. Now if you picked a FWD national champ, put them in a Yaris, they would beat a teen (thats not a FJB/FJA national champ) by 10+ seconds over a 40 second course. By the last comment, I can guess you've never been to an autox where a good driver was driving a normal car. 2 weekends ago at an SFR event, I watched a guy in a Kia Rio Wagon beat me in my DS WRX, a number of ST* cars, a number of SM cars, and a number of Super Stock (and A, B, C, etc)

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I suggest a cheap, light RWD car with a manual transmission and no ABS for learning how to drive properly on the track, the Yaris is the wrong car for the job.
We're not talking track, we're talking autox which is a totally different beast all together.
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