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sqcomp · 07-10-2012, 09:52 AM

Sand down those edges on that metal, run that wire...are you going to surround the mounting hole with some deadening to reduce resonances? How's the tweeter going to be mounted?

derickveliz2 · 07-11-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

What I'm going to be interested to see is how the mounting is integrated with the a pillar.

I see that mount is deep...really deep in there. What say you Derick? This may be a good experiment for horn loading...

Yeah me too! I'm thinking about cutting a big section (hole) in the lower part of the a-pillar and build up a big open horn shape from the tweeter's base to the opening of the a-pillar, I'm not sure how to accomplish that, but I'll dig into it.

D.

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

Sand down those edges on that metal, run that wire...are you going to surround the mounting hole with some deadening to reduce resonances? How's the tweeter going to be mounted?

Yes will deaden the area, I will use a thin sheet of wood/balsa wood or even MLV as baffle into the metal.

D.

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sqcomp · 07-11-2012, 08:48 PM

Baffling into the metal...I wish I could be out there with you to help. I think between the two of us we could make this happen REALLY quickly.

*sigh*

Using some substrate you can drill into using the L1v2's mounting holes. I'm thinking even a 1/4" pan head would be fine and not kick too far into the metal depending on the thickness of the substrate.

I'd say make a couple rings out of balsa that are juuuuusssst slightly larger than the outer diameter of the tweeter and then reverse the technique we've used to make the original pillars. Build in instead of out.

Thoughts?

derickveliz2 · 07-11-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

........and then reverse the technique we've used to make the original pillars. Build in instead of out.

Thoughts?

You read my mind!

D.

sickpuppy1 · 07-11-2012, 11:24 PM

Kind of a speaker mounted in a funnel. Interesting.....Hey, what about using a funnel! lol

sickpuppy1 · 07-11-2012, 11:26 PM

By angleing the cut on the material you could still aim it a bit if needed. If nothing else it would be a cheap way to experiment.

sickpuppy1 · 07-11-2012, 11:27 PM

Would it have a megaphone effect though if not treated or coated....

derickveliz2 · 07-11-2012, 11:32 PM

Hilser Funnel in process... kind of!

pictures of the cut out section soon...

Hilser Funnel

D.

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derickveliz2 · 07-12-2012, 01:41 AM

Area to but removed...

I'm sorry for the quality of the pictures, I used my cellphone

D.

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derickveliz2 · 07-12-2012, 01:43 AM

Just for FUN...

Painted calipers the other day!

D.

sqcomp · 07-12-2012, 03:13 AM

@ sick...

I'm not so sure that we'll have much of an effect that far off axis.

@ Derick...

Go to Toyotapartszone and get another pair of a-pillars. It's a just in case thing. I'm off to do my Army drill thing for the next two weeks and that pillar thing is one of the first things I need to do when I get back...seeing where my tweeters are now.

derickveliz2 · 07-13-2012, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

@ Derick...
seeing where my tweeters are now.

I saw a picture showing your tweeters in the sail panels! I was going to go that way too.

But now I can't wait for some extra time and cut the right side and move right tweeter there, the stage is impressive to me, and sweets my taste for Front Stage better than before.

Good luck in the next 2 weeks! Will be hovering around here!

D.

sqcomp · 07-13-2012, 11:47 PM

Have the amps, doors, dash panels, and emblems all are in paint...gotta drive the PT if I want my tails to get painted...

I've got some nice trick paint $hit coming our way as soon as I arrive back home.

derickveliz2 · 07-24-2012, 01:23 AM

Got to mention that mean while I'm working on the a-pillars for the tweeters I've gone tweeter less, and with some tuning sounds so good. Not as good like a full 3way system but not bad at all.

The image height is about sail panels and top of dash board, just amazing!

D.

sqcomp · 07-24-2012, 11:49 AM

The sail panel width is nice. With certain tracks you have width out into the mirrors. The height is nice like Derick mentioned. If you play the mids to far in one direction (frequency) you get some bad localization. That can also be mitigated with the crossover adjustments (slopes and points). It's about the tune for amplitude and the imaging now...

What people have to remember is that a great tune doesn't happen in an hour. It takes some of these top competitors hundreds of hours in some cases to get it to their liking.

derickveliz2 · 07-25-2012, 02:24 AM

New MPG personal record:

45.33 MPG

D.

derickveliz2 · 07-26-2012, 10:49 AM

I just found out that my ID amp has 2 gains, one for each side (Left and Right) Cool.

D.

derickveliz2 · 07-26-2012, 10:51 AM

3 days Tweeter-Less and loving it, I do miss the Tweeter specially after moving it forward into into the metal under the a-pillar, got to make more time to get them back.

D.

07-10-2012, 09:52 AM	#1
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Sand down those edges on that metal, run that wire...are you going to surround the mounting hole with some deadening to reduce resonances? How's the tweeter going to be mounted? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-11-2012, 08:48 PM	#3
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Baffling into the metal...I wish I could be out there with you to help. I think between the two of us we could make this happen REALLY quickly. sigh Using some substrate you can drill into using the L1v2's mounting holes. I'm thinking even a 1/4" pan head would be fine and not kick too far into the metal depending on the thickness of the substrate. I'd say make a couple rings out of balsa that are juuuuusssst slightly larger than the outer diameter of the tweeter and then reverse the technique we've used to make the original pillars. Build in instead of out. Thoughts? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-11-2012, 11:24 PM	#5
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	Kind of a speaker mounted in a funnel. Interesting.....Hey, what about using a funnel! lol __________________

07-11-2012, 11:26 PM	#6
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	By angleing the cut on the material you could still aim it a bit if needed. If nothing else it would be a cheap way to experiment. __________________

07-11-2012, 11:27 PM	#7
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	Would it have a megaphone effect though if not treated or coated.... __________________

07-11-2012, 11:32 PM	#8
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Hilser Funnel in process... kind of! pictures of the cut out section soon... Hilser Funnel D. . __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-12-2012, 01:41 AM	#9
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Area to but removed... I'm sorry for the quality of the pictures, I used my cellphone D. . __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-12-2012, 01:43 AM	#10
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Just for FUN... Painted calipers the other day! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-12-2012, 03:13 AM	#11
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	@ sick... I'm not so sure that we'll have much of an effect that far off axis. @ Derick... Go to Toyotapartszone and get another pair of a-pillars. It's a just in case thing. I'm off to do my Army drill thing for the next two weeks and that pillar thing is one of the first things I need to do when I get back...seeing where my tweeters are now. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-13-2012, 11:47 PM	#13
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Have the amps, doors, dash panels, and emblems all are in paint...gotta drive the PT if I want my tails to get painted... I've got some nice trick paint $hit coming our way as soon as I arrive back home. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-24-2012, 01:23 AM	#14
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Got to mention that mean while I'm working on the a-pillars for the tweeters I've gone tweeter less, and with some tuning sounds so good. Not as good like a full 3way system but not bad at all. The image height is about sail panels and top of dash board, just amazing! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-24-2012, 11:49 AM	#15
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	The sail panel width is nice. With certain tracks you have width out into the mirrors. The height is nice like Derick mentioned. If you play the mids to far in one direction (frequency) you get some bad localization. That can also be mitigated with the crossover adjustments (slopes and points). It's about the tune for amplitude and the imaging now... What people have to remember is that a great tune doesn't happen in an hour. It takes some of these top competitors hundreds of hours in some cases to get it to their liking. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-25-2012, 02:24 AM	#16
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	New MPG personal record: 45.33 MPG D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-26-2012, 10:49 AM	#17
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I just found out that my ID amp has 2 gains, one for each side (Left and Right) Cool. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-26-2012, 10:51 AM	#18
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	3 days Tweeter-Less and loving it, I do miss the Tweeter specially after moving it forward into into the metal under the a-pillar, got to make more time to get them back. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

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