W.O.T in neutral

[IllusionX]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

It all kind of depends upon how far down the road you look. If you trade cars every 4 years, it's probably no big deal. But when your other cars are all 22 and 42 years old, with 250k+ and 350k+ miles on them, you tend to think a little further down the road. My Sprint had 77,432 miles on it when I bought it in 1992... and that seems like only yesterday. 350k today.

-Steve

Reliable cars stay reliable for a long time. Though, winters in Canada don't help keeping those car in shape for that long unless they are stored for winter. In such case, these cars don't get alot of mileage.

Anyways... it always depends on the car. A Smart CDI, you'd keep it between 2000-2500rpm with a redline at 3200rpm!
A rotary engine is to be kept above 6000rpm...
A honda should be kept above 3000rpm...

American muscle don't rev very high, so you don't drive it the way you drive a japanese car. When was the last time you saw a japanese car that stay at 1500rpm @60mph ?

As you are talking about your chevy sprint... I had the original suzuki swift. That thing ran at 3500rpm @60mph!!!

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by IllusionX

As you are talking about your chevy sprint... I had the original suzuki swift. That thing ran at 3500rpm @60mph!!!

I have a Geo Metro automatic (really my brother's) which turns 4000rpm at 60mph. 5000rpm at 75 mph. They had a 4.1:1 FD with no overdrive. Not even a locking torque converter in those. The automatics were very primitive. Like something out of the 70s.

The 5 speed manual Sprints had a 0.76:1 overdrive. And the Sprint Metro had a special 3.79:1 final drive, in addition to a low lift, short duration economy cam, different ECU, and special low friction piston ring configuration.

With P15580R12 tires (3% larger diameter than the original, and impossible to find, P14580R12 tires) my Sprint Metro turns 2660 rpm at 60 mph. On teamswift, those who have changed their ring and pinions out for the 3.62:1 variety available on certain 1.3 liter 4 cylinder Swifts tend to chide the rest of us with their 2550rpm@60mph readings. (Some members even lie about their FD.)

The Yaris, in 4th gear, turns about the same speed, about 2550 rpm, at 60 mph. Its comparatively huge, monster inline 4 1.5L engine allows for that. ;-)

-Steve

[IllusionX]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

I have a Geo Metro automatic (really my brother's) which turns 4000rpm at 60mph. 5000rpm at 75 mph. They had a 4.1:1 FD with no overdrive. Not even a locking torque converter in those. The automatics were very primitive. Like something out of the 70s.

The 5 speed manual Sprints had a 0.76:1 overdrive. And the Sprint Metro had a special 3.79:1 final drive, in addition to a low lift, short duration economy cam, different ECU, and special low friction piston ring configuration.

With P15580R12 tires (3% larger diameter than the original, and impossible to find, P14580R12 tires) my Sprint Metro turns 2660 rpm at 60 mph. On teamswift, those who have changed their ring and pinions out for the 3.62:1 variety available on certain 1.3 liter 4 cylinder Swifts tend to chide the rest of us with their 2550rpm@60mph readings. (Some members even lie about their FD.)

The Yaris, in 4th gear, turns about the same speed, about 2550 rpm, at 60 mph. Its comparatively huge, monster inline 4 1.5L engine allows for that. ;-)

-Steve

it's crazy how those little engines ran high RPM's... the Geo only had a 1.3L

my swift had a 1.6L with 3 spd automatic...

well... RPM always stayed high. :) but god, it had alot of power for the little car.. hehe

[swidd]

Congress only called the Toyota CEO in to destroy his company, to make the taxpayer investment in G.M. more valuable. 51 deaths by predominantly people over 60 hitting the gas too hard, is hardly newsworthy in usual circumstances. It would look bad on the congress members who put so much money into GM, if they didn't make a profit, so they destroy the competitor.
The main profiteer of the cash-for-clunkers program was Toyota with Corollas selling like eight balls of cocaine. That's not what congress wanted.

[sbergman27]

I honestly think that this smear campaign would have been launched even if the US Federal Government were *not* part owners of GM and Chrysler. The fact of the matter is that Toyota and Honda crushed our American auto industry by producing better products at a better price. And that could not be allowed to go unpunished under any circumstances. The United States of America is the Greatest, Most Free, and Best Nation On Earth. And beating us fair and square in a free market is inexcusably *Unpatriotic* of those Japanese manufacturers.

-Steve

[BluYrs]

Another bang for Toyota/Lexus: Consumer Reports puts Lexus GX on "Do Not Buy" list due to rollover fears. It's strange how, as mentioned in the article, the other twin Totota 4Runner is not mentioned. Anyway, looks like soon enough you guys over there will be recommended to buy low-sprung sports cars only...

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/13/c...uy-list-due-t/

[Yariz]

so if you revved it real high in N and dropped it into first you will not cause dmg? That doesn't sound right? Please explain.

[ddongbap]

As a professional bone head, and one who bounces off the rev limiter when entering some corners, I say its fine. I've boinged off the rev limiter for minutes at a time.

Idk what anyone says. My engine is running very healthy on all three cly.

[Bluevitz-rs]

Originally Posted by ddongbap

Idk what anyone says. My engine is running very healthy on all three cly.

you're joking right?

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

you're joking right?

Yes I am.

[yaris-me]

[ddongbap]

GRRRROOWPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAA.

Thats what it sounds like when u WOT in neutral.

[Jeemee]

Originally Posted by ddongbap

GRRRROOWPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAA.

Thats what it sounds like when u WOT in neutral.

Nicely done!