Max Speed in Each Gear for 5 speed man. Yaris with no tach?? - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

grampi · 10-22-2008, 03:27 PM

I don't understand why cars equipped with manual transmissions don't come with a tach (even base models). The exact purpopse of having a tach is to let you know when to shift, which is something you need with a manual tranny.

ddongbap · 10-22-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by grampi

I don't understand why cars equipped with manual transmissions don't come with a tach (even base models). The exact purpopse of having a tach is to let you know when to shift, which is something you need with a manual tranny.

Because you simply don't need a tach to drive. Auto or manual.

grampi · 10-22-2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ddongbap

Because you simply don't need a tach to drive. Auto or manual.

I disagree. I think if you have a manual tranny you need a tach.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 10-22-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by grampi

I disagree. I think if you have a manual tranny you need a tach.

DON'T NEED NO STINKiN TACH, ive gotten used to listening to my motor......

justjesus · 10-22-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ROCKLAND TOYOTA

DON'T NEED NO STINKiN TACH, ive gotten used to listening to my motor......

LOL - my friend is trying to convince me to get a tach. I tells him i don't needs it, so whatever! you don't NEED a tach when driving a manual. If it was truly NEEDED, Toyota would have installed it.

As for PK's (?) numbers being different from the owner's manual... well, that was just HIS preference. We all shift at different speeds. Also, i believe the original queston (sort of, as it was more like TWO parts) was...
I'd like to know how fast I can go in each gear in order to achieve maximum acceleration.

You wont achieve max accel from redlining these motors.

PaidTimeOff · 10-22-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by grampi

I disagree. I think if you have a manual tranny you need a tach.

Well, you clearly don't NEED a tach, as people have been driving manual transmission vehicles without tachs for decades. Hell, even the manual 1997 Ford Escort I drive for work doesn't have a tach and it's still going strong after more than a decade of use. You may WANT a tach so you can see your revs, but it's definitely not required to effectively drive a manual transmission car.

grampi · 10-22-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PaidTimeOff

Well, you clearly don't NEED a tach, as people have been driving manual transmission vehicles without tachs for decades. Hell, even the manual 1997 Ford Escort I drive for work doesn't have a tach and it's still going strong after more than a decade of use. You may WANT a tach so you can see your revs, but it's definitely not required to effectively drive a manual transmission car.

You're not doing much to help me make my argument. I know you don't NEED a tach to drive a manual, but isn't having one nice? It isn't asking that much for Toyota to quit being so damn cheap and just include one in the base Yaris. They're already selling these cars for a much higher price than they should be. It isn't like Toyota isn't going to make a profit on these cars if the included a tach.

ddongbap · 10-23-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by grampi

I disagree. I think if you have a manual tranny you need a tach.

You're doing it right now, aren't you? There are tons of other Yaris manual owners who're not running any tachs, yet are still able to drive, AMIRITE?

Bob_VT · 10-22-2008, 04:28 PM

I would thing the rev limiter would prevent overspeed while upshifting.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 10-22-2008, 04:33 PM

rev limiter works for me in all gears. this past weekend i just experienced 5th gear limiter that hit about 117/118...........

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 10-22-2008, 08:38 PM

this is true, which is why i read closer to 120 mph when i hit rev limiter.....

09TRD · 10-23-2008, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PK198105

09TRD here is the page you asked for

Thank you very much; that's exactly what I've been looking for.

bubaa · 10-23-2008, 12:17 AM

so theres n problem on shifting almost all the time up to 6500 i have tach

09TRD · 10-23-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bubaa

so theres n problem on shifting almost all the time up to 6500 i have tach

No street driven engine should be shifted at redline "almost all the time."

More revs equal more wear per mile. Racing engines are generally shifted at redline, but most of them have to be rebuilt on a regular basis.

You can safely red-line the Yaris's engine (or any other street engine in good condition) on occasion (e.g. when merging into traffic, accelerating hard for the fun of it, etc.).

Another user scanned and posted this. It shows recommended shift points for different driving conditions:

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/att...9&d=1224720740

paraganek · 10-23-2008, 02:31 PM

OK, maybe a little off topic but this shifting pattern works best if you drive for the best fuel economy (so you do not need fast acceleration):
shift to 2nd at 10MPH
shift to 3rd at 25 MPH
shift to 4th at 35 MPH
shift to 5th at 45 MPH

09TRD · 10-23-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by paraganek

OK, maybe a little off topic but this shifting pattern works best if you drive for the best fuel economy (so you do not need fast acceleration):
shift to 2nd at 10MPH
shift to 3rd at 25 MPH
shift to 4th at 35 MPH
shift to 5th at 45 MPH

"Best" compared to what?

How do you know that 11 MPH, 24 MPH, 33 MPH and 46 MPH wouldn't be better, for example?

paraganek · 10-23-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 09TRD

"Best" compared to what?
How do you know that 11 MPH, 24 MPH, 33 MPH and 46 MPH wouldn't be better, for example?

The numbers I posted are based on many Yaris forum members experience (both with and without Scangauge II), unfortunately all those posts are lost now

PerfectoII · 06-07-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ROCKLAND TOYOTA

1st:about 32mph
2nd about 63 mph
3rd about 81 mph
4th around 102 mph
5th cuts off at just 117/118..........

im not stock and have I/H/E, crank pulley.........

Decided to try 4th at 80-95 mph today...car did very well up hill for the whole duration (about 25 seconds...) no CAI or pulley...

10-22-2008, 04:28 PM	#9
Bob_VT View User's Garage Drives: 08 Yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,704	I would thing the rev limiter would prevent overspeed while upshifting. __________________ some people are little slinkies. . . . .they are really good for nothing. . . .but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. Come to the DARKSIDE..... We have candy

10-22-2008, 04:33 PM	#10
ROCKLAND TOYOTA TRIM HUNTER View User's Garage Drives: 2007 BLAZIN BLUE YARIS 3 DR Join Date: May 2006 Location: ROCKLAND COUNTY NY Posts: 2,088	rev limiter works for me in all gears. this past weekend i just experienced 5th gear limiter that hit about 117/118........... __________________ http://rocklandtoyota.com/IFrame.aspx?iFrameID=2388 TOYOTA PARTS AT A DISCOUNT........

10-22-2008, 08:38 PM	#11
ROCKLAND TOYOTA TRIM HUNTER View User's Garage Drives: 2007 BLAZIN BLUE YARIS 3 DR Join Date: May 2006 Location: ROCKLAND COUNTY NY Posts: 2,088	this is true, which is why i read closer to 120 mph when i hit rev limiter..... __________________ http://rocklandtoyota.com/IFrame.aspx?iFrameID=2388 TOYOTA PARTS AT A DISCOUNT........

10-23-2008, 02:31 PM	#15
paraganek Drives: 2008 Yaris Liftback 5 speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 8	OK, maybe a little off topic but this shifting pattern works best if you drive for the best fuel economy (so you do not need fast acceleration): shift to 2nd at 10MPH shift to 3rd at 25 MPH shift to 4th at 35 MPH shift to 5th at 45 MPH __________________

10-22-2008, 03:27 PM	#1
grampi Drives: Corolla Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 325	I don't understand why cars equipped with manual transmissions don't come with a tach (even base models). The exact purpopse of having a tach is to let you know when to shift, which is something you need with a manual tranny.

10-23-2008, 12:17 AM	#13
bubaa Drives: yaris rs Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: mexico Posts: 110	so theres n problem on shifting almost all the time up to 6500 i have tach