ABS and "!" lights are ON again! - Page 20 - Toyota Yaris Forums

auxmike · 04-13-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by "G"

Uhm your an idiot. When the light comes on you lose abs, but you do not lose any braking power.

Um, you're pretty rude. People come here for help with things they don't know or understand. Even if the question seems real simple or common sense, be gracious in your reply or just don't bother and let someone help them..

johnny_vitz · 01-17-2012, 07:59 PM

So I FINALLY had a yaris come in with an ABS light on, ended up being corrosion at the LR connector. If anyone is wondering it's only $45cdn for a whole new harness per side to fix, that is IF the bearings terminals aren't damaged. Fairly easy to change out as well. I'm a little confused at some of the posts saying thousands of dollars being spent to fix these problems

Even both bearings and both harnesses replaced including labour wouldn't be $1000 using toyota parts, through my shop anyways...?

"G" · 01-17-2012, 08:09 PM

What if the corrosion is on the terminals hub side? Then what are you going to replace??????????????????????

johnny_vitz · 01-17-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by "G"

What if the corrosion is on the terminals hub side? Then what are you going to replace??????????????????????

lol read my post

If the terminal in the hub/bearing unit is damaged you'll have to replace it, but it still isn't terribly expensive. I would definitely agree with what several people have suggested and recommmend taking the connectors off and packing them full of grease to keep them from corroding.

The best part is, I suggested to do this on the other sides connector (RR) of the customer's yaris I was working on, and they wouldn't approve me to do it.

"G" · 01-17-2012, 10:08 PM

Exactly, replacing a hub and paying toyotas inflated part pricing is terribly expensive to yaris owners. Especially since it's a design flaw.

johnny_vitz · 01-17-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by "G"

Exactly, replacing a hub and paying toyotas inflated part pricing is terribly expensive to yaris owners. Especially since it's a design flaw.

Agreed. But every car has problems, just like our water pumps. They're still near the top of the list for reliability, and have very few expensive issues.

The pricing on these parts specifically isn't too bad, I was amazed that the harness was only $45...but that is probably because it is a common issue (they had 9 in stock).

willow1 · 01-23-2012, 03:44 PM

I don't understand how people can drive for years with their ABS light on...I was told the car wouldn't pass inspection with it on. I'm going through the same thing now as we speak..car's in at the dealer and I'm waiting to hear the verdict.

devinlamothe · 03-20-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by willow1

I don't understand how people can drive for years with their ABS light on...I was told the car wouldn't pass inspection with it on. I'm going through the same thing now as we speak..car's in at the dealer and I'm waiting to hear the verdict.

The only inspection it won't pass is the safety if you plan on selling/trading in. There are no other inspections to worry about as far as I am aware.

I've been driving with these lights on for a couple of years and I really could care less. Maybe this summer I will try and clean out the connectors myself, just my driveway is gravel and isn't exactly the best to do car work in.

403RS · 01-25-2012, 12:50 AM

Had the lights come on last week when it was -40, but they went away as soon as it warmed up. Knock on wood that they stay off, will be inspecting the problem area closer in the springtime.

WildChild · 01-29-2012, 08:54 PM

Count me in, both lights lit up yesterday on my 2007 Yaris Sedan which has less than 50000 KM. I guess I'll have to take a look at those connectors next spring to clean them up!

Filed a complaint to Transport Canada...

Boddy · 02-07-2012, 06:52 AM

I just buy a 2007 Yaris and 3 weeks after, I havethe same problem. Mistake is problem is not permanent, Sometime, light is on and somentime is off.
Problem arrive after a couple cold days, but it come back yesterday and It was just 0 Celcius, not really cold for Quebec.

When I bring car for warranty, light was off and the dont see anathing, but I come back during the evening! Must to return.

Following your message, seem to be a 2007 bug.
Invetigation runnig..

derickveliz2 · 02-07-2012, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Boddy

I just buy a 2007 Yaris and 3 weeks after,...

When I bring car for warranty, light was off and the dont see anathing, but I come back during the evening! Must to return.

Following your message, seem to be a 2007 bug.
Invetigation runnig..

Take pictures or video to prove it!

Not a bug for 2007s... mine is 2008

D.

fidgell · 03-23-2012, 10:41 AM

Its 2 years this week since I cleaned and greased mine...STILL no reoccurance. Please try to DIY it before giving the stealerships any of your hard earned cash!!!

"G" · 03-31-2012, 12:39 PM

I'm going to attempt to replace my hub assembly with a koyo unit. Fuck aisin. Is their a write up on how to do it anywhere?

devinlamothe · 03-31-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fidgell

Its 2 years this week since I cleaned and greased mine...STILL no reoccurance. Please try to DIY it before giving the stealerships any of your hard earned cash!!!

I'm going to try that as soon as the weather gets warmer. If I need a new wiring harness it's only $25 per side ... I just hope the hub side isn't corroded.

devinlamothe · 04-23-2012, 10:37 AM

OK I am having some trouble getting the stupid sensor connection off the hub. Any suggestions? Smaller flat-head screwdriver maybe?

Also, has anyone replaced the wiring harness? I thought it connected somewhere under the car not up inside the car. Any tips for that would be helpful too since I may have to replace that as well.

jason214 · 04-23-2012, 09:29 PM

Unfortunately, the vehicle side connectors are inside the deck trim panel on each side. You have to remove a Deck Trim Side Panel(LH or RH, depending on which side you want to replace) to get to the vehicle side connector. (Refer to service manual IR-41 (Interior)

I had the same problem for three months and I ended up replacing brake actuator(used one from ebay, left rear hub with an ABS sensor(Timken HA590170), and wiring harness for both sides. That cost me about $400 CAD. I did it myself.

kebhen · 06-01-2012, 04:12 PM

Yup, count me in as one of the fortunate ones. When the mechanic was taking off the connector it was so corroded that the pins broke off. So I souced a replacement sensor and hub assembly from WorldPac 200.00 CDN at Carquest. Have to get it installed after the pins come out of the socket (hopefully).

01-17-2012, 07:59 PM	#2
johnny_vitz Drives: 2005 Toyota Echo Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 259	So I FINALLY had a yaris come in with an ABS light on, ended up being corrosion at the LR connector. If anyone is wondering it's only $45cdn for a whole new harness per side to fix, that is IF the bearings terminals aren't damaged. Fairly easy to change out as well. I'm a little confused at some of the posts saying thousands of dollars being spent to fix these problems Even both bearings and both harnesses replaced including labour wouldn't be $1000 using toyota parts, through my shop anyways...? __________________ 05' Echo Hatch - Greddy Supercharger - rear disc

02-07-2012, 06:52 AM	#11
Boddy I've made a post! Drives: Toyota Yaris 2007 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: J3T Posts: 1	I have too I just buy a 2007 Yaris and 3 weeks after, I havethe same problem. Mistake is problem is not permanent, Sometime, light is on and somentime is off. Problem arrive after a couple cold days, but it come back yesterday and It was just 0 Celcius, not really cold for Quebec. When I bring car for warranty, light was off and the dont see anathing, but I come back during the evening! Must to return. Following your message, seem to be a 2007 bug. Invetigation runnig..

04-23-2012, 10:37 AM	#16
devinlamothe Drives: '07 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sudbury, Canada Posts: 520	OK I am having some trouble getting the stupid sensor connection off the hub. Any suggestions? Smaller flat-head screwdriver maybe? Also, has anyone replaced the wiring harness? I thought it connected somewhere under the car not up inside the car. Any tips for that would be helpful too since I may have to replace that as well. __________________

01-17-2012, 08:09 PM	#3
"G" Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 346	What if the corrosion is on the terminals hub side? Then what are you going to replace??????????????????????

01-17-2012, 10:08 PM	#5
"G" Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 346	Exactly, replacing a hub and paying toyotas inflated part pricing is terribly expensive to yaris owners. Especially since it's a design flaw.

01-23-2012, 03:44 PM	#7
willow1 I've made a post! Drives: 2006 Yaris Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Nova Scotia Canada Posts: 1	I don't understand how people can drive for years with their ABS light on...I was told the car wouldn't pass inspection with it on. I'm going through the same thing now as we speak..car's in at the dealer and I'm waiting to hear the verdict.

01-25-2012, 12:50 AM	#9
403RS #yyc View User's Garage Drives: BSP '07 RS 5dr LB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 238	Had the lights come on last week when it was -40, but they went away as soon as it warmed up. Knock on wood that they stay off, will be inspecting the problem area closer in the springtime.

01-29-2012, 08:54 PM	#10
WildChild Drives: 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Quebec City Posts: 18	Count me in, both lights lit up yesterday on my 2007 Yaris Sedan which has less than 50000 KM. I guess I'll have to take a look at those connectors next spring to clean them up! Filed a complaint to Transport Canada...

03-23-2012, 10:41 AM	#13
fidgell Drives: 2006 Yaris RS 3 door Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Barrie ON Canada Posts: 58	Its 2 years this week since I cleaned and greased mine...STILL no reoccurance. Please try to DIY it before giving the stealerships any of your hard earned cash!!!

03-31-2012, 12:39 PM	#14
"G" Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 346	I'm going to attempt to replace my hub assembly with a koyo unit. Fuck aisin. Is their a write up on how to do it anywhere?

04-23-2012, 09:29 PM	#17
jason214 Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Halifax NS Posts: 11	Unfortunately, the vehicle side connectors are inside the deck trim panel on each side. You have to remove a Deck Trim Side Panel(LH or RH, depending on which side you want to replace) to get to the vehicle side connector. (Refer to service manual IR-41 (Interior) I had the same problem for three months and I ended up replacing brake actuator(used one from ebay, left rear hub with an ABS sensor(Timken HA590170), and wiring harness for both sides. That cost me about $400 CAD. I did it myself.

06-01-2012, 04:12 PM	#18
kebhen Drives: 2007 Toyota Yaris with 184K Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Halifax, NS Posts: 11	Yup, count me in as one of the fortunate ones. When the mechanic was taking off the connector it was so corroded that the pins broke off. So I souced a replacement sensor and hub assembly from WorldPac 200.00 CDN at Carquest. Have to get it installed after the pins come out of the socket (hopefully).