The battle of the Droids??!

[tomato]

Are you sure about that, Thomas?!

[eTiMaGo]

read what *you* wrote in the previous post

[tomato]

autocorrect

still, you picked up on that pretty quickly eh?

[tomato]

Android handsets secretly logging keystrokes?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-57...ages/?ttag=fbw

Good read from CNet.

[cali yaris]

Do you have to buy the new phone (Nexus) to get Ice Cream Sandwich, or can previous phones like my S II be upgraded?

[Black Yaris]

iPhone..... /story :)

[Shroomster]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

iPhone..... /story :)

lol troll!

j/k...
in all fairness, iPhones are great for what they do, but suck for what they don't.

open source?
ease of sharing info/data with other non-apple products/i specific devices?
removable/user replaceable battery?
factory warranty/insurance?
long-term life of use/retrofitting 'outdated' products with new software?

(some of these things are debatable [I KNOW]) but seriously, the iHype is way too out of control, people shouldn't be selling their children (really) to get computers....

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

iPhone..... /story :)

I could never go back to a tiny phone like the iPhone®. The small screen coupled with the awkward real estate space above the screen looks old fashioned.

And still no 4G? Seriously? Apple® is only 2 years behind.

[Black Yaris]

all I hear from all my friends that are droid users is how bad the battery life is, and how they have lots of freezing problems. I laugh at how many of them call there phones "shitty". the whole 3g and 4g is very negligible, we saw very little difference from a Thunderbolt and my iphone4 in speed... and we were both using verizon

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

Do you have to buy the new phone (Nexus) to get Ice Cream Sandwich, or can previous phones like my S II be upgraded?

It will definitely be made available as a system update on many of todays top tier phones. The phone requirement may be that it's dual core, but I'm uncertain.

I have a Bionic which Motorola says will get 4.0 no sooner than 6 weeks after the Nexus arrives. The Razr will of course get it too. Can't wait!

[Shroomster]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

all I hear from all my friends that are droid users is how bad the battery life is, and how they have lots of freezing problems. I laugh at how many of them call there phones "shitty". the whole 3g and 4g is very negligible, we saw very little difference from a Thunderbolt and my iphone4 in speed... and we were both using verizon

I'm not gonna lie about this:

If you have ZERO knowledge about using a smart phone or a computer, then an iPhone is the best choice.

people who buy android phones usually know what they are getting into, and have some sort of idea about how they are going to set up the phone to work best for them.

an iPhone is just click this and click that and yay it works.....

an android gets customized to the individual. EVERYTHING has settings and those settings have settings. odds are if you're friends are complaining about battery, then they didn't spend the time getting to know the phone and just expected it to mold to their hand the instant it came out of the box.

iPhones are pretty much idiot proof in that if you can slide your finger, you can use this phone.

No offense to your friends whatsoever, as I've been on here long enough to get jists of the senior members like yourself and I figure you and your friends aren't 'dumb' phone users.

[tomato]

There is another reason why you might want an iPhone. If the camera part of the phone is important to you, then you might want to have a look at the iPhones, especially the newest one that just came out. These little iPhones take impressive photos in my modest opinion.

But as soon as the new Samsung Galaxy running on ICS (Google's latest) comes out, iPhones will have serious competition in that regard. They've done some huge improvements on shutter speed, etc.

[tomato]

@shroomster : settings about settings is right!!! especially true for people running Cyanogen. Cyanogen unleashes a whole other layer of settings you didn't know existed!! I'm still digging through them and trying to get familiar with them all!

For the main user just getting a new phone from a carrier, depending on which phone they get, the manufacturer's skin may or may not be user friendly. As I remember, there was a bit of a learning curve with Sense UI, but that is not always the case for all Android phones. So the only way to know is to go play with them and see if you like the interface. Only a few phones run vanilla android. Most others have a user interface, plus customizations from the carrier, on top of it.

[Kioshi]

I hate to disagree w/ you Black Yaris. But Android phones, once people learn how to utilize their full potential...they can be a serious threat to iphone users.

Mine runs circles around the iPhone 4, seriously. Compared just by simple tasks, not quadrant scores and its more fluid and quicker and responsive. Thanks to Cyanogen and an onslaught of memory/davlik freeing up mod/s.


Yes, I love the camera lens on the iPhone and the sleek design.

All in all, Android phones are like....modding a car. And iPhone, well, they are for people who just want a phone, kind of like how majority of the people that buy nice cars...really dont know how to drive them or keep them in running condition. Of course, there are the people that jailbreak their iphone, i commend those people

@ tomato - try out ICS for your phone. The latest version for my phone, the gallery is AWESOME. Although, a few FC here and there but overall smooth operating now. I just need a working gps, mms, and camera and...I'm set.

[tomato]

a working GPS would be nice. I can deal with lesser KB (it's actually very much like the KB on my iPod Touch ) and lesser camera controls of CM 7.1 compared to Sense UI but my GPS doesn't work, even after applying the fix and that's kind of a deal breaker to me. I guess I'll be trolling the forums on my spare time to see if peeps have found a workaround, otherwise ... I really need my GPS working! Several applications I have rely heavily on it, not to mention I rely heavily on it to get around!

BTW, what do you use for international keyboard?

PS. I've seen ICS in person. Personally, I think it rules. Best Android OS hands down.

[Shroomster]

Originally Posted by tomato

a working GPS would be nice. I can deal with lesser KB (it's actually very much like the KB on my iPod Touch ) and lesser camera controls of CM 7.1 compared to Sense UI but my GPS doesn't work, even after applying the fix and that's kind of a deal breaker to me. I guess I'll be trolling the forums on my spare time to see if peeps have found a workaround, otherwise ... I really need my GPS working! Several applications I have rely heavily on it, not to mention I rely heavily on it to get around!

tomato, see if the rom for the evo 3d by developer "LeeDrOiD" works for your evo, his roms always have everything working.....hands down one of the best devs on there and he is constantly tweaking for many phones. I switch between his rom for the sensation and NRGz28's Energy rom.....

[Shinare]

Since I'm about to step into the smartphone arena for the first time, I've been reading some of the posts in this thread the last couple pages. I'm thinking about getting the Galaxy S II 4G for t-mobile for myself and getting a pair of HTC Wildfire S phones for my wife and daughter. It's interesting reading about ICS and Cyanogen, where can I learn more on the how's and why's of applying these ROMs and the pros/cons of such? Thanks!

[33OH]

I just finally switched from being a faithful Android user of 2 years to an iPhone 4. I just couldn't take the battery life anymore. I'd tried countless ROM's, apps, techniques, etc. to no avail. I had a Droid Eris at first and switched to the Droid Incredible when they came out and couldn't get more than 4-5 hours of battery life out of either phone, even with an extended battery.

Do I miss the Android? Heck yes. But I do get a good 24 hours of battery life out of my new toy. :)