Know by Toyota Yaris defect

[127.0.0.1]

Originally Posted by rslyk

Stove...The Ford recall was on the cruise control that would for no reason
go to wide open throtle....it was in the mid 80's and was phantom problem
that took Ford years to live up to...I believe it was finally linked to a ground
path problem....

you sure this is not the multi-million vehicle recall where fords caught fire because the cruise control brake switch was in the brake fluid and vehicle would catch fire overnight in the garage ?

or any of the other of millions of recalls by 'name ANY auto manufacturer here' ?


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to rslyk

yeah it sucks to have a problem with a car, but the way you're talking about it, the way you are doing, and bringing up completely irrelevant comparisons, is only making you look foolish here...

Toyota is a corporation, and the goal is to 'make money for stockholders'. Period. To achieve that goal, they strive to design reliable and stylish automobiles (and other heavy machinery and products) for various price points. Failures detract from that goal. Mistakes can and will happen and Toyota tries to correct them. Your expectations as stated are unreasonable and quite silly, and don't 'float' in the real world.

sh*t happens, deal with it.

[Lucas13]

I like many things of my Yaris but it has been in repairs for over 84 days since I Purchased Brand new, a lot of things gone bad with this car, there is no doubt that is a lemon, I can’t say that all of them will have all this problems, what I’ve seen is that my yaris has had many of the issues the some folks of this forum already experienced.

I owned a tC and I had only two minor problems a broken glove box and loose panoramic roof, I only drove it until 17k and then I traded it for the 350Z which was the best car I ever owned. My dad’s 01 corolla still working very solid, and my sisters 03 corolla the same those two cars are a good example of great Toyotas.

I think we can’t expect the same quality of the old school Toyotas…

[rslyk]

Originally Posted by Lucas13

I like many things of my Yaris but it has been in repairs for over 84 days since I Purchased Brand new, a lot of things gone bad with this car, there is no doubt that is a lemon, I can’t say that all of them will have all this problems, what I’ve seen is that my yaris has had many of the issues the some folks of this forum already experienced.

I owned a tC and I had only two minor problems a broken glove box and loose panoramic roof, I only drove it until 17k and then I traded it for the 350Z which was the best car I ever owned. My dad’s 01 corolla still working very solid, and my sisters 03 corolla the same those two cars are a good example of great Toyotas.

I think we can’t expect the same quality of the old school Toyotas…

Lucas13.....If you still own your Yaris 3dr o7 litback and have not had the filler neck
cover and support repalced... yet spend the $25 for the parts and change it. Not
doing this will cause an incurrsion of water into your charcoal cansiter sooner
or later...If it happens outside your warranty the canister/filter will cost nearly
$1000 to purchase....

[eTiMaGo]

rslyk, you need to sell your Yaris and buy the world's most reliable car that will never have any TSBs or recalls, from a car manufacturer that is totally honorable and not in it only for the money. Such as the... er... er.... hmmmm.... I'm drawing a blank... a bicycle perhaps? There *was* Volvo, but they kinda went broke and got taken over by Ford...

Or try your hand at designing a modern, complex, mass-produced vehicle and get it absolutely flawless...

Or you could call your lawyer and sue Toyota over this infamy!

Seriously, there are things worth getting worked out over, if you put half of this energy into lambasting BP over the oil spill, maybe they'd be getting somewhere.

[rslyk]

Originally Posted by eTiMaGo

rslyk, you need to sell your Yaris and buy the world's most reliable car that will never have any TSBs or recalls, from a car manufacturer that is totally honorable and not in it only for the money. Such as the... er... er.... hmmmm.... I'm drawing a blank... a bicycle perhaps? There *was* Volvo, but they kinda went broke and got taken over by Ford...

Or try your hand at designing a modern, complex, mass-produced vehicle and get it absolutely flawless...

Or you could call your lawyer and sue Toyota over this infamy!

Seriously, there are things worth getting worked out over, if you put half of this energy into lambasting BP over the oil spill, maybe they'd be getting somewhere.

eTMaGo....Thanks for you advise....I'll cut my wrist now..but if you do
not own a 07 Yaris 3dr lift back... my post really doesn't apply to you...somehow
you seem to think that its is rubbish to try to make owners of affected cars aware
of an acknowledged defect.....If you have a 07 Yaris 3 dr hatch back with this
defect.... sooner or later it will bite you....if outside your warranty ...the canister/filter will cost you nearly $1000....Toyota made a production change but never offered
owners of these cars the knowledge that a $25 up date could avoid this failure.....

[eTiMaGo]

I have an '06... and live in the tropics... and have driven many many many times under rain so hard the wipers are barely helping at all... no issue

Toyota has offered the owners knowledge of the update, that's what TSB's are about. Ownership of a car does not mean the manufacturer will personally call you to update you about these TSBs, it does require a *little* effort on the part of the owner to do some research.

I guess we now personally know the demographic for which the "Maintenance Required" light was invented...

[rslyk]

Well that is super....tell me... is your 06 LiL red 5 door a vechicle that is affected by Tsb e048-07 ? since you didn't post your vin# it would be hard for me to tell...Does your car even have a Key offEVAP pump module? Maybe I am wrong, but I don't believe the defect shown in that TSB affect a car outside the USA. I appreciate your sharing your deeply researched demographic study.

[Lucas13]

Originally Posted by rslyk

Lucas13.....If you still own your Yaris 3dr o7 litback and have not had the filler neck
cover and support repalced... yet spend the $25 for the parts and change it. Not
doing this will cause an incurrsion of water into your charcoal cansiter sooner
or later...If it happens outside your warranty the canister/filter will cost nearly
$1000 to purchase....

Thanks rslyk, Right now I’m waiting for the day of the hearing and I’m crossing fingers that I get my car replaced, if this doesn’t happen I will take your advice and replace that part, I’m assuming that is not difficult to DIY.

[MadMax]

Recall and TSB work does not require the vehicle to be under warranty.

Originally Posted by eTiMaGo

I guess we now personally know the demographic for which the "Maintenance Required" light was invented...

Now that's funny!

[Stove]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Recall and TSB work does not require the vehicle to be under warranty.

True, you can always have either done, but it's quite likely you'll pay for TSB's out of your own pocket if your warranty is expired. Typically, Recalls are covered regardless of warranty coverage to a point. Extreme example, but Toyota isn't going do free Recall work over brake issues on a 1969 Corolla.

The OP's issue is not covered as a free repair for the life of the car, only if its under warranty. A good reason to be proactive and watch for Service Bulletins.

[rslyk]

Originally Posted by Lucas13

Thanks rslyk, Right now I’m waiting for the day of the hearing and I’m crossing fingers that I get my car replaced, if this doesn’t happen I will take your advice and replace that part, I’m assuming that is not difficult to DIY.

The replacement of the filler cover and cover holder is very simple....I hope you
prevail in you quest to replace your "lemon"....what forum are you in....I had a semi successfull quest in 1982 with a Porche 944 in Miami Under the Florida lemon law....if possible I would find your pleadings and final outcome interesting reading....
good luck.

[tenaz]

Originally Posted by rslyk

I believe that the FIRST time that the cars with this are driven for an extended period in a reasonaable heavy rain storm this failure will occur REGARDLESS of period of in
service time. If you look at the replacement parts differences it is clear that they
were concerned enough to do a redesign but not honorable enough to offer
a $100 update to avoid a $1200 repair that was caused by a known defect. This
goes directly to the question of INTEGRITY. This is not a failure of use, wear and
tear or expectation of service....I believe it is a continuation of the corporate
mentality to dismiss known defects as "OUTSIDE" warranty period. To answer
your question of how long....if a change in production is made to correct potential
failure and no offer of at customer cost update at "IN DEALERSHIP" major service intervals is made....forever. This is truely an issue of integrity not warranty. Regardless of the number of complaints you have viewed during your participation in this forum....
to dissmiss this defect is not considerate of those folks who have these infected cars and need to be informed so that they make choice of a $100 up date prior to failure.

+1

BUMP

TENAZ

[ABOOGAMAN]

Originally Posted by rslyk

I believe that the FIRST time that the cars with this are driven for an extended period in a reasonaable heavy rain storm this failure will occur REGARDLESS of period of in
service time. If you look at the replacement parts differences it is clear that they
were concerned enough to do a redesign but not honorable enough to offer
a $100 update to avoid a $1200 repair that was caused by a known defect. This
goes directly to the question of INTEGRITY. This is not a failure of use, wear and
tear or expectation of service....I believe it is a continuation of the corporate
mentality to dismiss known defects as "OUTSIDE" warranty period. To answer
your question of how long....if a change in production is made to correct potential
failure and no offer of at customer cost update at "IN DEALERSHIP" major service intervals is made....forever. This is truely an issue of integrity not warranty. Regardless of the number of complaints you have viewed during your participation in this forum....
to dissmiss this defect is not considerate of those folks who have these infected cars and need to be informed so that they make choice of a $100 up date prior to failure.

I have also had this failure

[tomato]

+1, bump? hmmm

Clearly, this thread seems to be attracting the trolls
so I'm gonna lock it for now.