Ethanol - 15-20%? - Page 3 - Toyota Yaris Forums

41magmag41 · 05-08-2010, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

It's not Obama's job to stop it. It's Congress's. If you think it should be stopped, you need to be pestering your representative and senators about it. Just like the Midwesterners who're profiting off of this corn ethanol business are pushing them to promote it further. Presidents don't make laws.

Problem is Obama thinks he can do anything and the congress rubber stamps it. He's a dyed in the wool Socialist and is taking us in that direction. Democracy is dying with thunderous applause for the sake of change. I hope the PEOPLE wake up and see that the consitution is going down the tubes.

slothman86 · 05-08-2010, 11:18 PM

I usually see up to 10% ethanol on the shell station I go to...well I only use shell, but anyway, I usually see the 10%... Last winter during I bought gas from a Shell station with a sign that said NO ETHANOL...

Now I dunno if they were bullshitting me or what but I did get even better mileage, If I recall correctly, it was 40+ and it was the best tank I had during the trip.

RedRide · 05-08-2010, 11:58 PM

Did you hear that Obama is also a space alien and hates all earth people?

He also has a "secrete plan" to take all the gas that will be saved by adding more ethanol to it and ship it to the planet "Bama"!

Hershey · 05-10-2010, 12:35 AM

that's a big f*cking deal .

jonconell · 05-11-2010, 07:19 PM

yes that's right 20% will increase the cost of living in general

bronsin · 05-11-2010, 10:52 PM

Id be worried it will cause problems in our 2006-09 Yari not designed for it.

why? · 05-12-2010, 01:18 PM

it won't cause engine problems necessarily, but ethanol seems to wear out the rubber parts of the fuel system faster. And of course less gas mileage.

bronsin · 05-12-2010, 03:00 PM

Right. And we'll be the experimented upon.

hwybox · 05-12-2010, 06:41 PM

I've always run E10 ethanol in both my 06 xB and my 01 malibu. I like to support local farmers (some of my family) but I've just switched to regular 87 because I get better gas mileage. 2-3% is what I've heard and I believe it. E10 runs a little hot and burns off faster, also gives the car a little more pep. I've kinda become a Hypermile driver, because of FUELLY.COM

hwybox · 05-12-2010, 06:47 PM

Also ethanol does not always blend well with gasoline, you can buy E10 and end up with 50-80% ethanol. This happens in the winter months more, I've had problems with my exhaust on my malibu because of this, I think. Cat converter and O2 sensors going out. Malibu has 143k miles and xB has 36k miles, I use ethanol (E10)98% of the time, up until this this last week.

Eli Lilly · 05-14-2010, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRide

The problem is, "big oil" has congress in their hip pocket and they will be the ones to benefit from increasing the ethanol content.

Not big oil... big farming... like Archer Daniels Midland, National Corn Growers Association, American Farm Bureau.

-E

Yules · 08-06-2010, 02:45 AM

I run my 2006 1.0 Yaris on E85 and it runs fine. I've installed an ethanol conversion kit.

Yes, I have 25% worse consumption.
I have almost the same power. On low RPM, I get a higher torque. On higher RPMs, offcourse its weaker.
Cold starts are not an issue, but its summer. I've installed it 2 months ago.
With the less price of E85, I will get my money back for the conversion in one year.

Gr8ful_Ken · 08-06-2010, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eli Lilly

Not big oil... big farming... like Archer Daniels Midland, National Corn Growers Association, American Farm Bureau.

-E

Right on. Also corn farming is heavily subsidised and big agribusiness wants more and more profit form the cheap corn they buy.

Also the Food, Conservation, and Energy Act of 2008, passed before Obama (and a democrat majority in congress) was elected, provided for increased production of ethanol.

05-08-2010, 11:18 PM	#38
slothman86 View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 733	I usually see up to 10% ethanol on the shell station I go to...well I only use shell, but anyway, I usually see the 10%... Last winter during I bought gas from a Shell station with a sign that said NO ETHANOL... Now I dunno if they were bullshitting me or what but I did get even better mileage, If I recall correctly, it was 40+ and it was the best tank I had during the trip. __________________ INDUSTRIAL DESIGN - DEVIANTART - CARDOMAIN

05-11-2010, 07:19 PM	#41
jonconell I've made a post! Drives: yaris Join Date: May 2010 Location: colombia Posts: 1	yes that's right 20% will increase the cost of living in general __________________ Jon Mapquest Mapquest driving directions

05-12-2010, 01:18 PM	#43
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	it won't cause engine problems necessarily, but ethanol seems to wear out the rubber parts of the fuel system faster. And of course less gas mileage. __________________ Colin Chapman disciple

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RedRide Drives: '09 Yaris carmine red 2d HB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 1,502	Did you hear that Obama is also a space alien and hates all earth people? He also has a "secrete plan" to take all the gas that will be saved by adding more ethanol to it and ship it to the planet "Bama"!

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Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	that's a big f*cking deal .

05-11-2010, 10:52 PM	#42
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,792	Id be worried it will cause problems in our 2006-09 Yari not designed for it.

05-12-2010, 03:00 PM	#44
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,792	Right. And we'll be the experimented upon.

05-12-2010, 06:41 PM	#45
hwybox Drives: 2006.5 Scion xB Join Date: May 2010 Location: the big "O" Posts: 14	I've always run E10 ethanol in both my 06 xB and my 01 malibu. I like to support local farmers (some of my family) but I've just switched to regular 87 because I get better gas mileage. 2-3% is what I've heard and I believe it. E10 runs a little hot and burns off faster, also gives the car a little more pep. I've kinda become a Hypermile driver, because of FUELLY.COM

05-12-2010, 06:47 PM	#46
hwybox Drives: 2006.5 Scion xB Join Date: May 2010 Location: the big "O" Posts: 14	Also ethanol does not always blend well with gasoline, you can buy E10 and end up with 50-80% ethanol. This happens in the winter months more, I've had problems with my exhaust on my malibu because of this, I think. Cat converter and O2 sensors going out. Malibu has 143k miles and xB has 36k miles, I use ethanol (E10)98% of the time, up until this this last week.

08-06-2010, 02:45 AM	#48
Yules Drives: Toyota Yaris 2006 1.0 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Hungary Posts: 4	I run my 2006 1.0 Yaris on E85 and it runs fine. I've installed an ethanol conversion kit. Yes, I have 25% worse consumption. I have almost the same power. On low RPM, I get a higher torque. On higher RPMs, offcourse its weaker. Cold starts are not an issue, but its summer. I've installed it 2 months ago. With the less price of E85, I will get my money back for the conversion in one year.