3rd Gear grind

[hatchbackkid82]

Good luck hope they take care of you

[tk-421]

Originally Posted by hatchbackkid82

Good luck hope they take care of you

Yeah I hope so... The Toyota rep was already giving me sh!t about having an aftermarket clutch, and how it would probably affect the warranty. Even after the mechanic already told him that it had nothing to do with the clutch.

[hatchbackkid82]

Awwwww man. The rep is trying to make some money off of you, hopefully the tech tells him that it didn't affect tranny

[hatchbackkid82]

Ok still no car yet

[tk-421]

Originally Posted by hatchbackkid82

Ok still no car yet

Same here.
Still waiting for the warranty verdict too.

[hatchbackkid82]

Oh i know that mine is covered they're just not done with it yet.

[tk-421]

I just called the dealership, and the news is not good in my case.

They're not covering my car under warranty, even when they KNOW that the clutch has nothing to do with the synchro. They want to charge around $200 just for taking the tranny apart, plus parts. Not only that, but it will take them at least until next Wednesday to get the car back together.

God I love my country.

[tomato]

Originally Posted by tk-421

I just called the dealership, and the news is not good in my case.

They're not covering my car under warranty, even when they KNOW that the clutch has nothing to do with the synchro. They want to charge around $200 just for taking the tranny apart, plus parts. Not only that, but it will take them at least until next Wednesday to get the car back together.

God I love my country.

OK, I don't understand this. Can someone please explain or send me to the right thread please?

What I don't understand is why the dealer picks and choose what is covered or not covered. You guys have practically new cars, or cars with much lower mileage than mine, therefore should be fully covered under the 3 y initial warranty, no? Isn't the initial warranty comprehensive, or does the dealership still get to pick and choose what's covered and what's not covered?

Are there any good thread on warranty issues that I might have missed in this forum? I'm really curious. (They wanted $160 to just look at my car even though it's technically under a comprehensive "bumper to bumper" warranty.

Why go to the dealership at all if they're going to pick and choose what's covered?!!!

[Jerkratt]

Originally Posted by tk-421

I just called the dealership, and the news is not good in my case.

They're not covering my car under warranty, even when they KNOW that the clutch has nothing to do with the synchro. They want to charge around $200 just for taking the tranny apart, plus parts. Not only that, but it will take them at least until next Wednesday to get the car back together.

God I love my country.

dude get in touch with toyota corp. or talk to there general mang. i think

[hatchbackkid82]

Damn man sorry to hear that TK. Well I just got a call back from the dealer, they ended up getting me a whole new transmission, the rep told me that after they put they new parts in there it was still doing the same thing (3rd gear grind) so they put a new tranmission in there. Sorry TK

[hatchbackkid82]

If you have a bumper to bumper warranty they should cover anything that goes wrong. Unless you have mods done, some may still honor it. But if the problem can be traced back directly to the mod then your SOL. For example: if you throw a CAI on your car and drive through a puddle and it hydrolocks. Then you take to the dealer with the CAI on there, they probably won't honor your warranty. Dealers should never charge you to take a look at your car if your under the bumper to bumper warranty. In my case i got lucky, i was out of the bumper to bumper warranty, but i was still within the powertrain warranty (5yrs/60k miles). So there was no charge.

[tomato]

Originally Posted by hatchbackkid82

If you have a bumper to bumper warranty they should cover anything that goes wrong...

Well, they SAID I did, that's what that Certified program is supposed to be about. Actually, you gave me an idea. I think I'll call Toyota directly and see what they say about my warranty. Maybe the guy I spoke to on the phone didn't know any better.

Sorry about the rant. I hate it when people take advantage. I have a feeling if they could get away with grabbing people by the ankles and shaking them until money comes out of their pockets, they probably would!!! What are you gonna do, you need your car and they know it. Grrrr

[Tamago]

so the weak transmission debacle carries over from the old generation 5spd eh ?

shame :(

[cleong]

Given that you'd changed the clutch, there might be sufficient grounds that the powertrain was altered to cause failure to the gearbox. A stock clutch with its associated slippage may have prevented the the gearbox having to deal with the power and torque from the engine fully. Because when it bites better, it also transmits that shock through the gearbox.

[tk-421]

Originally Posted by cleong

Given that you'd changed the clutch, there might be sufficient grounds that the powertrain was altered to cause failure to the gearbox. A stock clutch with its associated slippage may have prevented the the gearbox having to deal with the power and torque from the engine fully. Because when it bites better, it also transmits that shock through the gearbox.

Sounds reasonable, although I had the grinding problem even before I changed my OEM clutch. That was actually one of the reasons I swapped the clutch in the end, thinking that it would fix the problem.

[cleong]

Unless you had reported this to the dealer back then, you can't prove that the grind was already there prior to the clutch swap.

Right now all they are focused on is the labour cost that would have to come out of their shop time, even if Toyota does honor warranty, which is probably why they are trying to get you to pay for labor.

But looking at your mod list, you have 3 items related to gearbox (NST SSK, bushings, ACT clutch) which aren't factory standard. I find that the easiest way to claim warranty without a quibble is to have a bog-stock standard car presented for the dealer's scrutiny, even if it means you have to spend on labor to demod it.

In Singapore, for some brands, warranty becomes void if you so much as skip a scheduled service with the authorized service workshop network. Modding a single item on a car causes the entire car's warranty to be voided, even if the failed part has nothing to do with what was modified, so take heart that there's dealers worse than the one you're dealing with right now.

[Morgan]

I'm getting a whole new transmission!

I think the key is to just ride with one of the service technicians from your local dealer and make sure they can replicate the noise, I've been complaining since Jan 08 about this but only now (that third is practically useless) do I get a new transmission...

Ehhh, whatever

my car sans the 3rd gear > slushbox belta

[tk-421]

Originally Posted by Morgan

I think the key is to just ride with one of the service technicians from your local dealer and make sure they can replicate the noise

That's what I did too. The tech actually said that it had nothing to do with the clutch swap or the SSK, but later said that they wouldn't cover my warranty anyway.

I think something like the Magnusson-Moss Act should be enforced around here. I'm gonna ask around and see if that is a possibility for us mexicanos.