Yaris MPG falls to 31 (auto) 32 (man) under new guidelines - Toyota Yaris Forums

deebrown · 06-24-2007, 11:55 PM

This site shows what the new MPG numbers are for cars (they changed the way they did the tests to reflect higher speeds, air conditioning etc...)

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calcu...ta&model=Yaris

deebrown · 06-25-2007, 12:01 AM

haha, kinda funny, the same site lists the honda fit under the category "small station wagon" rather than sub-compact

BailOut · 06-25-2007, 12:02 AM

The new EPA estimates are sadly based on how people are actually driving, rather than how they should be driving.

We've become a country of very shameful, wasteful, selfish, aggressive motorists.

churp · 06-25-2007, 12:24 AM

Does anyone know if these new estimates are what the government is basing the new milage demands on the manufacturers for the future? Cause they're going to have to shape up if so.

Motorhead6T5 · 06-25-2007, 12:45 AM

The imports have been cheating for years by only accelerating 3mph per sec,when the domestics have been tested at accelerating at 5mph per sec during the test. It should only effect imports.

Motorhead6T5 · 06-25-2007, 12:47 AM

Wow I just read the link and checked out some domestics and they change too. I don't get it ford is still advertising 25mpg on the mustang GT and that site says 20mpg. I could see some people suing over it lol.

Edit: ah I see,separate issue...

"EPA has changed the way it estimates MPG.

Starting in model year 2008, estimates will reflect the effects of

Faster Speeds & Acceleration
Air Conditioner Use
Colder Outside Temperatures"

Moose · 06-25-2007, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BailOut

The new EPA estimates are sadly based on how people are actually driving, rather than how they should be driving.

We've become a country of very shameful, wasteful, selfish, aggressive motorists.

So, we should have been driving at a simulated 55 mph on a dyno with no wind or road resistance and no air conditioning?

Maybe if the government started pumping up their tires to 578545 PSI and pushed their cars out of the driveway it would be more accurate?

Wasteful, selfish and aggressive are relative terms, sir.

Thotprawsis · 06-25-2007, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BailOut

We've become a country of very shameful, wasteful, selfish, aggressive motorists.

You may want to check out the Drifting culture! We are not alone. "Perspective!"

hystria · 06-25-2007, 09:29 AM

I wonder how to add our mileage to the referred site ?

vodkalush · 06-25-2007, 09:30 AM

all I know is new guidelines or not I drive like I'm late to everything (fast accell, short braking, high speeds) and i still on average get 35mpg and if I dont accell like an ass I get 40mpg and this is with a full trunk all the time and randomly sized passengers

nsmitchell · 06-25-2007, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BailOut

The new EPA estimates are sadly based on how people are actually driving, rather than how they should be driving.

We've become a country of very shameful, wasteful, selfish, aggressive motorists.

We've become a country of very shameful, wasteful, selfish, aggressive people in general.

lostmind · 06-25-2007, 01:26 PM

Wouldn't it be shameless?

deebrown · 06-25-2007, 01:30 PM

the numbers do seem a little low, I think consumer reports calculated an average of about 34mgp, which seems close to what I get (between 37-38)...I wonder if they are assuming 4 passengers in the car?

kurokoma-kun · 06-25-2007, 01:31 PM

"...shameful, wasteful, selfish, aggressive people..."

Not to mention quicker to judge others, harsher in censuring them, and slower to forgive. More critical, less compassionate. Why, even some of our friends in this forum are guilty of this...

SailDesign · 06-25-2007, 05:46 PM

The new numbers are all F'd up. My old VW Fox, which regularly got 35-36 mpg on the highway loaded with a kid and a year's college stuff, is listed at 32 highway. And I definitely used a heavy foot coz it only had 81hp compared to the Yaris' 100-ish..

Rizzo · 06-25-2007, 09:35 PM

So here's a newbie question. Since so many of you seem to be in the US, are you talking about US mpg, or imperial mpg?

Black Yaris · 06-25-2007, 09:36 PM

US mpg

Vanderkitten · 06-25-2007, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurokoma-kun

"...shameful, wasteful, selfish, aggressive people..."

Not to mention quicker to judge others, harsher in censuring them, and slower to forgive. More critical, less compassionate. Why, even some of our friends in this forum are guilty of this...

Yes, we call them Republicans!!

Oh, no, did I just start a war? Oh, wait, that's the Republican's job!

Ahhh... I digress...

06-24-2007, 11:55 PM	#1
deebrown Drives: Sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 37	Yaris MPG falls to 31 (auto) 32 (man) under new guidelines This site shows what the new MPG numbers are for cars (they changed the way they did the tests to reflect higher speeds, air conditioning etc...) http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calcu...ta&model=Yaris

06-25-2007, 12:02 AM	#3
BailOut Steals terrorist's lunch View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Reno, Nevada, USA Posts: 1,299	The new EPA estimates are sadly based on how people are actually driving, rather than how they should be driving. We've become a country of very shameful, wasteful, selfish, aggressive motorists. __________________ - Brian Share the Road I often carry 2 carpool passengers and mountain bikes or snowboards/skis over a 4,500 foot elevation difference. Click the graphic above to see my detailed mileage logs.

06-25-2007, 12:24 AM	#4
churp Clean and (dis)Functional View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 2dr--Black Betty Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tropical Minnesota Posts: 562	Does anyone know if these new estimates are what the government is basing the new milage demands on the manufacturers for the future? Cause they're going to have to shape up if so. __________________ ____________ Old School Cobble Jockey

06-25-2007, 12:45 AM	#5
Motorhead6T5 View User's Garage Drives: 07 NCP96 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NorCal Posts: 209	The imports have been cheating for years by only accelerating 3mph per sec,when the domestics have been tested at accelerating at 5mph per sec during the test. It should only effect imports. __________________

06-25-2007, 12:47 AM	#6
Motorhead6T5 View User's Garage Drives: 07 NCP96 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NorCal Posts: 209	Wow I just read the link and checked out some domestics and they change too. I don't get it ford is still advertising 25mpg on the mustang GT and that site says 20mpg. I could see some people suing over it lol. Edit: ah I see,separate issue... "EPA has changed the way it estimates MPG. Starting in model year 2008, estimates will reflect the effects of Faster Speeds & Acceleration Air Conditioner Use Colder Outside Temperatures" __________________ Last edited by Motorhead6T5; 06-25-2007 at 12:49 AM. Reason: add

06-25-2007, 12:01 AM	#2
deebrown Drives: Sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 37	haha, kinda funny, the same site lists the honda fit under the category "small station wagon" rather than sub-compact

06-25-2007, 09:29 AM	#9
hystria Drives: 2007 Orange Yaris Hb 3Drs Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Montreal-Canada Posts: 262	I wonder how to add our mileage to the referred site ?

06-25-2007, 09:30 AM	#10
vodkalush I drive a yarrrris View User's Garage Drives: 07 Sedan Polar White Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,009	all I know is new guidelines or not I drive like I'm late to everything (fast accell, short braking, high speeds) and i still on average get 35mpg and if I dont accell like an ass I get 40mpg and this is with a full trunk all the time and randomly sized passengers __________________ Docotrs say all the drikning has mesesd up my seplilng and radieng Get your YarisWorld.com stickers here!!! The Official Toyota Thailand Accessories Order Thread will work for parts

06-25-2007, 01:26 PM	#12
lostmind Drives: 06 STi, 07 rav4, 07 yaris Join Date: May 2007 Location: Port Moody Posts: 100	Wouldn't it be shameless?

06-25-2007, 01:30 PM	#13
deebrown Drives: Sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 37	the numbers do seem a little low, I think consumer reports calculated an average of about 34mgp, which seems close to what I get (between 37-38)...I wonder if they are assuming 4 passengers in the car?

06-25-2007, 01:31 PM	#14
kurokoma-kun Drives: 2007 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: my own little world Posts: 1,256	"...shameful, wasteful, selfish, aggressive people..." Not to mention quicker to judge others, harsher in censuring them, and slower to forgive. More critical, less compassionate. Why, even some of our friends in this forum are guilty of this... __________________ my yaris, kurokoma-kun

06-25-2007, 05:46 PM	#15
SailDesign Drives: . Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,931	The new numbers are all F'd up. My old VW Fox, which regularly got 35-36 mpg on the highway loaded with a kid and a year's college stuff, is listed at 32 highway. And I definitely used a heavy foot coz it only had 81hp compared to the Yaris' 100-ish..

06-25-2007, 09:35 PM	#16
Rizzo View User's Garage Drives: 2007 5-Door Hatchback Join Date: May 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 40	So here's a newbie question. Since so many of you seem to be in the US, are you talking about US mpg, or imperial mpg?

06-25-2007, 09:36 PM	#17
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	US mpg __________________

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