Shifting without the clutch

[hwybox]

Originally Posted by djct_watt

I've tried it on my yaris, and also on both my xA and tC without the noise. The xB1 shares the same tranny and engine as the yaris and the xA, and the xB2 shares
the same engine/tranny as the tC. So the xB is not different.

I know thats why im on this site lol, maybe im a tard...

[Yaris Hilton]

Originally Posted by Yar Is Word

Anyone remember "Clutch Cargo"?

I do!

[bankrobber]

Originally Posted by djct_watt

^if you are doing it right there should be no pop sound. You need to shift to neutral at zero load; it's the moment you're neither applying
power nor engine braking.

You need to pull it out of gear at the same time you let off the gas. If not exact on timming you will force it out of gear.

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by djct_watt

I've tried it on my yaris, and also on both my xA and tC without the noise. The xB1 shares the same tranny and engine as the yaris and the xA, and the xB2 shares
the same engine/tranny as the tC. So the xB is not different.

XB and Yaris trannys are different.

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

Rev matching = double clutching

wrong

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by thebarber

wrong

RONG.

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by ddongbap

RONG.

i rev match w/o double clutching daily. double clutching is for trannies w/o synchro's.

[djct_watt]

Originally Posted by ddongbap

XB and Yaris trannys are different.

Uuuuh. . . they both use C50 transmissions. . .

[BuildCode]

I've shifted without the clutch on previous cars....just to see how/that it could be done, but I gotta agree with everyone here, it just shouldn't really be done because the transmission has syncros and was designed to be shifted with a clutch, so it is most likely in the transmission's best interest to shift with the clutch.

I double clutch whenever making big downshifts, like for example if I'm going to put the car in 2nd gear at 40mph (for a fun turn) I'll put the car in neutral with the clutch out and blip it up to 4,000rpm real quick, and then it shift into 2nd gear, it's amazing the difference feeling it just "drop" into 2nd in this situation (no waiting for the syncros to work). I believe this (double clutching for big downshifts) is very good for the life of the syncros. Shifting without the clutch would do the opposite to the life of the syncros UNLESS you literally rev matched PERFECTLY every time. Which I don't care how good of a driver you are, the Yaris' electronic throttle and other environmental factors will not allow you to literally perfectly rev match every shift - You're going to be putting wear on the syncros, and it will be more wear than normal.

[AND189]

ladies please

[thebarber]

*unsubscribing*

[AND189]

thebarber

can't handle the heat

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

I do!

Animated lips. Never caught on.

[Altitude]

Hey, I have a question about oil...

[AND189]

well this thread is about Shifting without the clutch not oil

[Kongo-Otto]

Originally Posted by Altitude

Hey, I have a question about oil...

You can take whatever you want, even old vegetable fat is fine because i know someone who read in the internet about a guy who made 500.000 mls with his lawn mower only on vegetable fat.

Attention: Irony!

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by djct_watt

Uuuuh. . . they both use C50 transmissions. . .

O. Maybe. The gearing is different. Thats all I was getting to.

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by thebarber

i rev match w/o double clutching daily. double clutching is for trannies w/o synchro's.

I was jk about the wrong.

But you REALLY should be granny shiftin' like you aughtta.