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[Yaris TTE JWRC]

Originally Posted by PetersRedYaris

These engines don't have timing belts.

Do you even know what a timing belt is?? how can an engine run without a timing belt, how are you going to run the water pump and powersteering?

[eTiMaGo]

You're both rigtht and wrong, the Yaris uses a timing CHAIN (which connects the crankshaft to the camshafts), and a single accessory BELT which connects the crankshaft to the alternator, air conditioning compressor, etc. You don't see the timing chain from the outside of the engine as it has a cover on top of it.

Yes, it's a lot of semantics, different words for more or less the same thing, easy to get confused.

The echo and xA/xB use two accessory belts as they have a traditional pump based power steering system, while the Yaris' is electric, meaning the extra belt is not needed. Which is why aftermarket Scion pulleys CAN fit on the Yaris, but they'll have an extra groove for that second accessory belt, which is more or less useless.

Anyway this thread is starting to turn a little too nasty, I think we now all need a timeout to re-read what everyone wrote and try to understand each other a little better, OK? Yaris TTE WRC is trying to help and share his experiences, but his choice of words is not always quite so helpful!

[ChinoCharles]

Yarii have electric power steering... unusual.

[spkrman]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Yarii have electric power steering... unusual.

hopefully you already knew that :)

its one of my fav things about the car.

[vodkalush]

Originally Posted by spkrman

hopefully you already knew that :)

its one of my fav things about the car.

ditto

[ChinoCharles]

I only found it out during the NST GB. For a second I thought the car had no power steering, like a Festiva.

[PetersRedYaris]

Originally Posted by Yaris TTE JWRC

Do you even know what a timing belt is?? how can an engine run without a timing belt, how are you going to run the water pump and powersteering?

I do! Apparently you don't as eTimago had to explain it to you. Use the correct terms. It's a chain, NOT a belt, and is internal, as opposed to external with a plastic cover over it. People may interchange the terms accessory and timing when talking about belts but they are not even the same thing nor do they serve the same purpose. One reason I like this 1.5 liter motor is because it does NOT have a timing belt. That means no expensive timing belt replacement/service. You probably feel dumb now, I'll let it go.

P.S. We have nearly the exact same car, even the color is the same. We should be friends!