Gauging Interest: Whiteline Front/Back Adjustable Sway Bars - Toyota Yaris Forums

RaptorRacing · 11-26-2008, 07:31 PM

Hey Folks;
I hope I'm not breaking any forum rules here; many months ago (pre-hack) I got the OK from YarisBueller to post this king of thread. I fully intend to become a vendor if this works out and even if it doesn't I intend to; have just been going nuts with other projects.

Enough about that, in the past I saw a hole in the adjustable sway bar market for 2nd and 3rd generation Supra's so I organized a test vehicle and a group buy to get them done. This was done back in 2006 and the response is insane, people love them and don't know how they've gone without them for so long. I've been dying to do this for the Yaris but the engineers at Whiteline have had a busy year so couldn't guarantee me a time frame.

I was contacted last week and they're very interested in this if there is a market for it. In order to make it work I'll need to place an order for 15 bars each (front and back). The have a couple Yarii available to them for the prototype so that saves me a step.

As far as I can see nobody else has adjustable sway bars done for the Yaris done yet, if I'm wrong please let me know. For those that haven't used/heard of adjustable sway bars here is some 'mild' theory on them:

THEORY
Unlike fixed factory and aftermarket sway bars, adjustable sway bars are one of the few was to actually tune over/under steer on any car 'on the fly'. We know that increasing the strength of the rear bar will 'reduce' traction on the rear tires which will make the car over steer. We also know that increasing the strength of the front bar will 'reduce' traction on the front tires which will make the car under steer.

With that understood one could easily conclude that decreasing the strength of the rear bar reduces over steer and doing the same to the front reduces under steer.

Increasing the strength of both the front and rear bars will theoretically reduce traction on all 4 tires enabling the car to drift more easily (not something you want on a street car but figured it was worth mentioning).

Adjustable sway bars let you test and tune the best balance for your car, something that's just not possible with non-adjustables as you're stuck with what the company thought is best.

PRICING & other SPECIFICS

Pricing will be roughly $185usd/bar. I have accounts with Whiteline Distributors in Australia and in between the North American Distributor and the Australia Distributor can virtually ship them anywhere in the world.

On a special note to Canadians: all my Canadian customers parts ship from Canada...no unknown duty/brokerage/shipping fee's. I import them through US/Canadian customs by myself to eliminate the brokerage fee.

As mentioned we'll need 15 to get this going and for now unless I see interest this will only be attempted with the 1.5L 1NZ-FE. Rear bars will be the same but there might be some differences need so without having the engineers look at the cars I can't say for now we can get this done for the 1.3L 2NZ-FE.

I'm going to put this up as a vote, please keep in mind that if this is going to go forward it takes a minimum of 3 month from go ahead to delivery time to get this done. I would require deposits simply because I wouldn't want to be stuck with 15 sets of bars if everyone changes their minds

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If you have any questions or concerns please let me know, I can appreciate coming from someone with 1 post this might look 'scary' so please feel free to check feedback on the other forums I sponsor. I just haven't' had all the time to come back to this forum ever since the hack.:

www.celicasupra.com
www.supramania.com
www.supraquebec.com
www.celica-gts.com
www.torontosupraclub.com
www.toyotacressida.net
www.toyotanation.com - don’t' sponsor them anymore but I did a few large Whiteline/Superpro group buys through them.

Thanks in advance for your time YW, hope we can get this done as personally I think it's an amazing product.

View Poll Results: Are you interested in Whiteline Adjustable Sway bars
Yes and I'm from North America	34	82.93%
Yes and I'm from Australia/New Zealand	2	4.88%
Yes and I'm from Asia	1	2.44%
Yes and I'm from Europe	1	2.44%
Yes and you didn't like my Area (please pm me)	3	7.32%
Yes but only if they make a 2NZ-FE fitment bar	0	0%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

11-26-2008, 07:31 PM	#1
RaptorRacing Drives: 2008 Yaris RS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 49	Gauging Interest: Whiteline Front/Back Adjustable Sway Bars Hey Folks; I hope I'm not breaking any forum rules here; many months ago (pre-hack) I got the OK from YarisBueller to post this king of thread. I fully intend to become a vendor if this works out and even if it doesn't I intend to; have just been going nuts with other projects. Enough about that, in the past I saw a hole in the adjustable sway bar market for 2nd and 3rd generation Supra's so I organized a test vehicle and a group buy to get them done. This was done back in 2006 and the response is insane, people love them and don't know how they've gone without them for so long. I've been dying to do this for the Yaris but the engineers at Whiteline have had a busy year so couldn't guarantee me a time frame. I was contacted last week and they're very interested in this if there is a market for it. In order to make it work I'll need to place an order for 15 bars each (front and back). The have a couple Yarii available to them for the prototype so that saves me a step. As far as I can see nobody else has adjustable sway bars done for the Yaris done yet, if I'm wrong please let me know. For those that haven't used/heard of adjustable sway bars here is some 'mild' theory on them: THEORY Unlike fixed factory and aftermarket sway bars, adjustable sway bars are one of the few was to actually tune over/under steer on any car 'on the fly'. We know that increasing the strength of the rear bar will 'reduce' traction on the rear tires which will make the car over steer. We also know that increasing the strength of the front bar will 'reduce' traction on the front tires which will make the car under steer. With that understood one could easily conclude that decreasing the strength of the rear bar reduces over steer and doing the same to the front reduces under steer. Increasing the strength of both the front and rear bars will theoretically reduce traction on all 4 tires enabling the car to drift more easily (not something you want on a street car but figured it was worth mentioning). Adjustable sway bars let you test and tune the best balance for your car, something that's just not possible with non-adjustables as you're stuck with what the company thought is best. PRICING & other SPECIFICS Pricing will be roughly $185usd/bar. I have accounts with Whiteline Distributors in Australia and in between the North American Distributor and the Australia Distributor can virtually ship them anywhere in the world. On a special note to Canadians: all my Canadian customers parts ship from Canada...no unknown duty/brokerage/shipping fee's. I import them through US/Canadian customs by myself to eliminate the brokerage fee. As mentioned we'll need 15 to get this going and for now unless I see interest this will only be attempted with the 1.5L 1NZ-FE. Rear bars will be the same but there might be some differences need so without having the engineers look at the cars I can't say for now we can get this done for the 1.3L 2NZ-FE. I'm going to put this up as a vote, please keep in mind that if this is going to go forward it takes a minimum of 3 month from go ahead to delivery time to get this done. I would require deposits simply because I wouldn't want to be stuck with 15 sets of bars if everyone changes their minds . If you have any questions or concerns please let me know, I can appreciate coming from someone with 1 post this might look 'scary' so please feel free to check feedback on the other forums I sponsor. I just haven't' had all the time to come back to this forum ever since the hack.: www.celicasupra.com www.supramania.com www.supraquebec.com www.celica-gts.com www.torontosupraclub.com www.toyotacressida.net www.toyotanation.com - don’t' sponsor them anymore but I did a few large Whiteline/Superpro group buys through them. Thanks in advance for your time YW, hope we can get this done as personally I think it's an amazing product.