triple blinker? - Toyota Yaris Forums

enobmort42 · 03-02-2009, 10:54 PM

so the volkswagen rabbit, not sure about the others, has something where you tap the turn signal lever once and it flashes the signal 3 times. is there a way to do that on the yaris, or is it programmed into the ecu of the vw? i tried calling the vw dealership here, but even no one there can give me a definitive answer

talnlnky · 03-02-2009, 11:17 PM

It'd be programmed into a tiny little rom chip somewhere near the steering wheel i'd bet.... I'm sure you could find some way to make your own.... but without the knowledge of how the yaris sends the signals for the flashers it'd be hard to figure out. If its just a stupid contact + relay type setup.. then yeah... you could probably make a button that went to some relays that could do the same thing, but you'd have to do it for both the left & the right.

I have no clue how the signal on the car is wired up tho... never cared to look and figure it out.

Altitude · 03-03-2009, 01:35 AM

That's a mighty strange feature.

Nexus1155 · 03-03-2009, 01:55 AM

There is a company out there that sells these boxes for VAG cars that aren't equiped with them, im sure if you wanted to do it it's possible

Shroomster · 03-03-2009, 02:07 AM

yeah the chryslers have this 'feature' too...personally i think it's snobbish as how abrupt three blinks of the light is.. like you're coming over into the lane whether I like it or not.....

Altitude · 03-03-2009, 02:49 AM

I'm serious - that's about the most useless 'feature' I've ever heard of.

I can't believe someone got paid to dream it up and that some auto executive thought it was a good idea.

Jerkratt · 03-03-2009, 02:53 AM

i see tegi's and bubble backs do this all day long... to me it looks like they got a bulb out...

enobmort42 · 03-03-2009, 01:39 PM

after doing a little more reading/researching, it's more than just a simple relay fix. it's programmed somewhere up in there.. a no go. thanks for the info.

but 9 times out of 10, i'm not cutting anyone off, so i don't know how snobbish it can be. highway driving here is way different than that in orlando! if changing lanes requires more caution, of course i'm going to let it go more than a few times. but here, there's more than enough room to have it flash only three times and be in the next lane by the time they're finished.

BLAZINBLUEVITZ · 03-03-2009, 01:51 PM

SOOOO, how do we get our blinkers to blink fast?

enobmort42 · 03-03-2009, 01:57 PM

pick your favorite (front or back) and break the other

eTiMaGo · 03-04-2009, 05:20 AM

I like the triple blinker function, sometimes it's easy to press the stalk just not long enough that the guy behind you does not see the blink. BMWs also do this, and it's just efficient in a German way, can't think of any better way to describe it

Jerkratt · 03-04-2009, 08:43 AM

1 way to get them to blink fast and BOTH stil work... but LED bulbs for them.. since they draw lower energy they cause the car to think the bulbs out and it blinks fast vala!

gmodder · 03-04-2009, 09:18 AM

I dont use my blinker so dont need this mod..

BLAZINBLUEVITZ · 03-04-2009, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLAZINBLUEVITZ

SOOOO, how do we get our blinkers to blink fast?

still no answer.......

eTiMaGo · 03-04-2009, 11:11 AM

er, 2 answers already:

1) break a bulb
2) swap them for cheap LEDs with no built in load resistors

maybe not quite what you are looking for?

BLAZINBLUEVITZ · 03-04-2009, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eTiMaGo

er, 2 answers already:

1) break a bulb
2) swap them for cheap LEDs with no built in load resistors

maybe not quite what you are looking for?

there's no relay we could put in like on old american cars?

eTiMaGo · 03-04-2009, 11:42 AM

I'd have to take a closer look at the electrical wiring diagram, I am not sure where the actual timing is coming from. But seeing the rest of this car, it's most likely an electronic device...

CTScott · 03-04-2009, 02:40 PM

There are two ways that I see of doing this:

1. Modify the flasher module circuitry (or add a microcontroller on top of it that looks for a quick close then open, and then does a tripple flash for you). Doable, but a bit of work.

2. Add two time delay relays (TDRs) in line with the flasher switches (one for left and one for right). TDRs come as either delay on make (DOM) or delay on break (DOB). In this case you'd want a DOB. The relay coil would be wired to the flasher switch. The contacts would be wired to the harness side. When you press and release the flasher switch it would continue to flash for the period which the DOB relay is set for (in this case a number of seconds, rather than a number of flashes).

The nice thing about this method is you can set the DOB for something like 3 to 5 seconds rather than just a quick tripple flash, so it would be more visible, but still have the same effect.

This second method would mean that you would also have the delay when you latch the turn signal, but that wouldn't really be an issue.

03-02-2009, 10:54 PM	#1
enobmort42 First time DIYer Drives: '07 LB Polar White Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 434	triple blinker? so the volkswagen rabbit, not sure about the others, has something where you tap the turn signal lever once and it flashes the signal 3 times. is there a way to do that on the yaris, or is it programmed into the ecu of the vw? i tried calling the vw dealership here, but even no one there can give me a definitive answer __________________ LED tails - debadged - 17" wheels - LED door handles - Painted Headlights - 30/35% tint - Blue LED Interior - DIY Cruise Control - Python 460HP Alarm - DIY Power Locks - K&N CAI - Lowering Springs

03-02-2009, 11:17 PM	#2
talnlnky Audio Junky Drives: 08 liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Spokane, Wa Posts: 1,412	It'd be programmed into a tiny little rom chip somewhere near the steering wheel i'd bet.... I'm sure you could find some way to make your own.... but without the knowledge of how the yaris sends the signals for the flashers it'd be hard to figure out. If its just a stupid contact + relay type setup.. then yeah... you could probably make a button that went to some relays that could do the same thing, but you'd have to do it for both the left & the right. I have no clue how the signal on the car is wired up tho... never cared to look and figure it out. __________________

03-03-2009, 02:53 AM	#7
Jerkratt View User's Garage Drives: 08 Yaris Liftback S (RIP 07) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Fair Lawn, NJ Posts: 1,378	i see tegi's and bubble backs do this all day long... to me it looks like they got a bulb out... __________________ "It hurts more when its wet"

03-03-2009, 01:39 PM	#8
enobmort42 First time DIYer Drives: '07 LB Polar White Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 434	after doing a little more reading/researching, it's more than just a simple relay fix. it's programmed somewhere up in there.. a no go. thanks for the info. but 9 times out of 10, i'm not cutting anyone off, so i don't know how snobbish it can be. highway driving here is way different than that in orlando! if changing lanes requires more caution, of course i'm going to let it go more than a few times. but here, there's more than enough room to have it flash only three times and be in the next lane by the time they're finished. __________________ LED tails - debadged - 17" wheels - LED door handles - Painted Headlights - 30/35% tint - Blue LED Interior - DIY Cruise Control - Python 460HP Alarm - DIY Power Locks - K&N CAI - Lowering Springs

03-03-2009, 01:51 PM	#9
BLAZINBLUEVITZ View User's Garage Drives: 2007 YARIS 3DOOR Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 1,275	SOOOO, how do we get our blinkers to blink fast? __________________ EVERYBODY EVENTUALLY COMES BACK TO YARISWORLD......

03-03-2009, 01:35 AM	#3
Altitude Drives: '08 LB MT Bayou Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,671	That's a mighty strange feature.

03-03-2009, 01:55 AM	#4
Nexus1155 Bathroom + Laptop = <3 Drives: Audi Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dorchester Posts: 1,009	There is a company out there that sells these boxes for VAG cars that aren't equiped with them, im sure if you wanted to do it it's possible

03-03-2009, 02:07 AM	#5
Shroomster '07 to '12:2 wipers to 1? View User's Garage Drives: '12 5-door LE & '14 5-door LE Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,999	yeah the chryslers have this 'feature' too...personally i think it's snobbish as how abrupt three blinks of the light is.. like you're coming over into the lane whether I like it or not.....

03-03-2009, 02:49 AM	#6
Altitude Drives: '08 LB MT Bayou Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,671	I'm serious - that's about the most useless 'feature' I've ever heard of. I can't believe someone got paid to dream it up and that some auto executive thought it was a good idea.

03-03-2009, 01:57 PM	#10
enobmort42 First time DIYer Drives: '07 LB Polar White Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 434	pick your favorite (front or back) and break the other __________________ LED tails - debadged - 17" wheels - LED door handles - Painted Headlights - 30/35% tint - Blue LED Interior - DIY Cruise Control - Python 460HP Alarm - DIY Power Locks - K&N CAI - Lowering Springs

03-04-2009, 05:20 AM	#11
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	I like the triple blinker function, sometimes it's easy to press the stalk just not long enough that the guy behind you does not see the blink. BMWs also do this, and it's just efficient in a German way, can't think of any better way to describe it __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

03-04-2009, 08:43 AM	#12
Jerkratt View User's Garage Drives: 08 Yaris Liftback S (RIP 07) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Fair Lawn, NJ Posts: 1,378	1 way to get them to blink fast and BOTH stil work... but LED bulbs for them.. since they draw lower energy they cause the car to think the bulbs out and it blinks fast vala! __________________ "It hurts more when its wet"

03-04-2009, 09:18 AM	#13
gmodder Riceman43 View User's Garage Drives: 2009 Yaris 3door Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 208	I dont use my blinker so dont need this mod..

03-04-2009, 11:11 AM	#15
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	er, 2 answers already: 1) break a bulb 2) swap them for cheap LEDs with no built in load resistors maybe not quite what you are looking for? __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

03-04-2009, 11:42 AM	#17
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	I'd have to take a closer look at the electrical wiring diagram, I am not sure where the actual timing is coming from. But seeing the rest of this car, it's most likely an electronic device... __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

03-04-2009, 02:40 PM	#18
CTScott ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 09 5dr LB, 2x 08 3dr LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA, CT Posts: 13,460	There are two ways that I see of doing this: 1. Modify the flasher module circuitry (or add a microcontroller on top of it that looks for a quick close then open, and then does a tripple flash for you). Doable, but a bit of work. 2. Add two time delay relays (TDRs) in line with the flasher switches (one for left and one for right). TDRs come as either delay on make (DOM) or delay on break (DOB). In this case you'd want a DOB. The relay coil would be wired to the flasher switch. The contacts would be wired to the harness side. When you press and release the flasher switch it would continue to flash for the period which the DOB relay is set for (in this case a number of seconds, rather than a number of flashes). The nice thing about this method is you can set the DOB for something like 3 to 5 seconds rather than just a quick tripple flash, so it would be more visible, but still have the same effect. This second method would mean that you would also have the delay when you latch the turn signal, but that wouldn't really be an issue.