2010 Yaris?

[Sabretooth]

Ok, heres a nice little thread for everyone to discuss.

If you have had your head stuck in a hole this whole year, 2009 was a big year for the Yaris. Well kinda, they redesigned it and added some nice pretty designing inside. The Onyx special edition came out (which wasnt all it was cracked up to be)...

Well for 2010, there hasnt been much said or discussed yet, but with the current changes to the Yaris overseas, it took a chat with Tamago and a realization of current models, that the 1nz (1.5L motor) is getting phased from Toyota's lineup.

Scion Xa/Xb, Yaris, Prius all had the 1.5L at the same time. Now Toyota has done away with 3 of the 4 platforms that origionally came with the motor. All have been equiped with the 1.8L or 2.4L... Soooo, does this mean that the Yaris is next?

I personally think so, I see within the next year, either the 2010 or 2011 Yaris will be equiped with the same 1.8L that the Yaris TS and Scion Xd are equipped with.

What you guys think? Logical assumption, or am I crazy?

[TheRealEnth]

i think thats true.. probaly the 1.8 like the xd

[twowheels]

That would be unfortunate. I'd rather see the 1.3L, though it's too late for me, I already made my purchase.

[kimona]

Originally Posted by twowheels

That would be unfortunate. I'd rather see the 1.3L, though it's too late for me, I already made my purchase.

Agreed.

[Yaris Hilton]

It certainly doesn't need a bigger or more powerful engine, but that seems likely to happen.

[Lazerdot]

I'd like to see a similar yaris as now but with a reduced profile roof line and lower stock seats.

Will the 2010/2011 have a body profile like ours now?

[Sabretooth]

Good news for future Yaris owners, finally an engine that handles boost well!
Could be possible that the next Yaris would have rear disk brakes as well, possible 5 lug pattern if they take the direct Xd approach.

[HTM Yaris]

Maybe the new Yaris will go Hybrid or Hydrogen or Sub Atomic

[Sandwash]

Originally Posted by HTM Yaris

Maybe the new Yaris will go Hybrid or Hydrogen or Sub Atomic

Toyota recently announced Yaris hybrid in to be sold in 2011, i believe.

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by HTM Yaris

Maybe the new Yaris will go Hybrid or Hydrogen or Sub Atomic

The 2011 Yaris is going to be all new and based on the iQ platform. It's supposed to be out late 2010 and it is said to have a hybrid variat. The current Yaris is said to be too costly for Toyota to convert to a hybrid as an option.

[scape]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

The 2011 Yaris is going to be all new and based on the iQ platform. It's supposed to be out late 2010 and it is said to have a hybrid variat. The current Yaris is said to be too costly for Toyota to convert to a hybrid as an option.

if this is true, i'm not sure there is a way they can stuff a 1.8 in the iQ chassis, I just don't think it's designed for such large amount of weight up front. so perhaps the 1.3l + hybrid will become popular?

[Lazerdot]

Does anyone know the life of the average battery in a Hybrid? If they have a say 7 year life span, what is done to re-equip the car, or dispose of the batteries? I like the hybrid ideas in general better then pure electric, a diesel electric hybrid would seem to be the best till Hydrogen really becomes a usable and convenient fuel. A diesel Yaris? Too much mulla I supose.

[Sabretooth]

Why the 1.3L, the car would be come rather sluggish and underpowered. Would feel like a smart car.

Also, it is said that the Scion IQ when it gets here will have the 1.5L engine in it, so question is now. They could leave the Yaris with the 1.5L, but it would be kinda stupid to do so. Every car maker who is making subcompacts is trying to sqeeze every HP out of their engines, even upping the displacement on paper 1.5L --> 1.6L, I could see Toyota delivering a big slap in the face by shoving a 1.8L and then becoming on par with the Nissan Versa.

[twowheels]

Originally Posted by Sabretooth

Why the 1.3L, the car would be come rather sluggish and underpowered. Would feel like a smart car.

How so? My 1.5 has far more power than I ever need. It can easily do 90 MPH on the freeway, it will spin the tires if you let the clutch out too fast, and it accelerates up to freeway speed w/o even trying, and I don't even rev it up high... I'd gladly trade some of that wasted power for another 5 MPG.

I recently took a long trip through the mountains with two adults and the rear of the car FULL of luggage and gifts for the people that we'd be visiting (seats folded down and full) and it did just fine except for one extremely steep pass (single lane road kind of steep) where I couldn't go fast enough to get out of second gear, but that was the exception. (btw, I still managed 41 MPG on that tank even after that climb and doing 80 MPH on the flat sections) On one vacation we went out in a Peugeot w/ a 1.3L engine w/ an automatic transmission and drove through the mountains with four adults (one of which was big enough to count as two) and luggage and it did just fine...

[Zaphod]

Originally Posted by twowheels

How so? My 1.5 has far more power than I ever need. It can easily do 90 MPH on the freeway, it will spin the tires if you let the clutch out too fast, and it accelerates up to freeway speed w/o even trying, and I don't even rev it up high... I'd gladly trade some of that wasted power for another 5 MPG.

I recently took a long trip through the mountains with two adults and the rear of the car FULL of luggage and gifts for the people that we'd be visiting (seats folded down and full) and it did just fine except for one extremely steep pass (single lane road kind of steep) where I couldn't go fast enough to get out of second gear, but that was the exception. (btw, I still managed 41 MPG on that tank even after that climb and doing 80 MPH on the flat sections) On one vacation we went out in a Peugeot w/ a 1.3L engine w/ an automatic transmission and drove through the mountains with four adults (one of which was big enough to count as two) and luggage and it did just fine...

I agree with that, 1.3L and a 6 speed would be great!

Of course I wouldn't trade in my 09 for one, but that would having me wishing I'd waited.

[Thirty-Nine]

Originally Posted by twowheels

How so? My 1.5 has far more power than I ever need. It can easily do 90 MPH on the freeway, it will spin the tires if you let the clutch out too fast, and it accelerates up to freeway speed w/o even trying, and I don't even rev it up high... I'd gladly trade some of that wasted power for another 5 MPG.

I agree. At least having a 1.3 option would be nice. I'd love to see some smaller engine options out there. Not everyone is looking for speed and performance. Although, I'd imagine a 1.3 might be a tough sell to Americans. The last car (sans the Smart) to come with such a small engine would've been the Suzuki Swift/Chevrolet Metro.

However, in the 1980s, there were cars with tiny, fuel-efficient engines that got 45+ MPG. Hybrid Shmybrid!

[cali yaris]

it is said that the Scion IQ when it gets here will have the 1.5L engine in it,

I think it's confirmed that it will be the 1.3L, at least that is what I read.

1.8L in the Yaris makes sense; it can be configured for very efficient mileage, and if they are using it in the Prius, why not the Yaris too.

[cali yaris]

p.s. -- I would "configure" the 1.8L for something else, though...