Is a Yaris Really That Slow? - Toyota Yaris Forums

RacerFreakXXX · 05-28-2010, 02:42 AM

I was driving behind a base Celica GT and noticed I could keep up with no problem, even up to highway speeds. No I was not racing, but the kid in front of me decided to floor it from a stop and I had to see if I could keep up. Surprisingly enough I did. I know a lot of people think the Yaris as being slow, but how slow is it compared to the average daily driver? It seems to be dead on average, or even a bit better that average from what I have experienced.

eTiMaGo · 05-28-2010, 02:50 AM

yeah it's easy to look at its "only" 100ish horsepower and think the car is slow, but that's more than enough thanks to the relatively light weight of the car.

I can merge into 50MPH traffic without needing to put the pedal all the way to the metal, that's my benchmark :D

Of course, I would not say no to more power :D

detroiter · 05-28-2010, 03:14 AM

I say the car should have came with 130-140hp. I don't know why car companies are so afraid of giving a "cheap car" a little bit of power...without charging a rediculous price for it. Never understood why they do that. A yaris with 100 hp is a cheap car with a cheap price. A same exact everything yaris but with 130 hp would cost $2-$3,000 dollars more.

Whatever happened to making a cheap affordable car that had some punch to it. Alot of car companies fell off if you ask me.

SilverBack · 05-28-2010, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by detroiter

I say the car should have came with 130-140hp. I don't know why car companies are so afraid of giving a "cheap car" a little bit of power...without charging a rediculous price for it. Never understood why they do that. A yaris with 100 hp is a cheap car with a cheap price. A same exact everything yaris but with 130 hp would cost $2-$3,000 dollars more.

Whatever happened to making a cheap affordable car that had some punch to it. Alot of car companies fell off if you ask me.

The reason our 1.5L 1NZ-FE is at 110 BHP is due to Toyota's goal to create a simple DD with a high MPG. If it were a 1.8L with up to 140 BHP we would get the punch, but would suffer a little more at the pump.

But yeah, you're right. We could afford just a little power considering how much money we're saving on gas compared to a slightly bigger car, like a Corolla.

Also the diesel Yarii owners in Europe have a good thing going. That should be us too IMO.

PETERPOOP · 05-28-2010, 03:14 AM

not garm's.

ddongbap · 05-28-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PETERPOOP

not garm's.

Garm no longer has a Yaris. Just a rocket on 4 wheels.

djct_watt · 05-28-2010, 03:34 AM

A Celica GT isn't all that either. . . now a Celica GT-S would be a different story. But in stock trim, even a GT-S isn't earth shattering. It's not like you kept up with a Corvette. . . But hey, even relative to a V6 Camry, it's slower. I remember when I had my xA in the USA, I was completely smoked by a Honda Odyssey Minivan that wanted to raise (because I cut him off). It was BEYOND embarassing.

But is it dangerously slow? No. It gets the job done, and is faster than MANY SUV's and other cars out there. All the base model Kia stuff is slower, as is the Aveo, some suzuki's, and a lot of older cars that were considered acceptable, ie older pre -01 Corolla's. Consider that the performance is nearly the same as base model non-modified older Honda Civic's. . .

But if you have the auto, it's a fairly large difference (due to gearing). But did you really buy a Yaris to go fast? You could have spent the $10k + on a run down Pontiac Trans-Am or an old Camaro. . . or gotten a beat up EG or EK and modified. Or you could have bought a motorcycle.

After having spent my time on a bike, everything below supercar status is slow, and is pointless to race. Yes, I still drive rather aggressively, but I do it because I am impatient, not because I enjoy it. Unless you can run 12's. . . it's just slow to me. It's like that signature everyone uses about how racing slow cars is like the racing in the special olympics.

BluYrs · 05-28-2010, 05:46 AM

The performance of the Yaris in everyday taffic greatly depends on the driver's skills. You have to be in the right gear at the right time, you can't just punch it whenever you feel like it. So it takes a bit more attention to find the torque sweetspot and to make most of the engine. But when you do, it's a hoot to trash around.

Given the above, I can't say my Yaris is slow. Sure, it takes a good 15 seconds to reach 100kmh/60mph and you have to change gear more often, but driven right it can be surprisingly swift.

yariphilia · 05-28-2010, 06:36 AM

yes, the yaris is slow. no it doesn't get great gas mileage. the 1.8l corolla is rated the same out of the box. my friend has an xd with the corolla motor and its auto and she is getting 39-41 mpg, dead on with what i'm getting. in 1992 honda built the civic cx, gas motor, 1.5l single cam vtec-e and it was rated somewhere around 50 mpg... 18 years later and the 1nzfe cant compare? this leads to the conclusion that the yaris is just a cheap car that is environmentally friendly. doesnt mean it will keep me from going fast though, its already been done :)

Lewis · 05-28-2010, 08:19 AM

This discussion is strange to me as I get to Europe and there the 1.5 motor is the "hot" Yaris. You want to see slow? Try the 1.2 gas or the diesel Yaris and you will discover what slow REALLY is!

My feeling is that if speed is your goal perhaps you should drive something other than a Yaris :-)

My photo shows another slow vehicle that is excellent off road!

Yaris Hilton · 05-28-2010, 08:41 AM

You can't directly compare old and new EPA mileage figures, because the test procedures changed to lower the figures in the 2007 model year. The AT Yaris got switched from 34/40 to 29/35. More crash protection structure, air bags and stuff runs up the car weight and that makes a big difference. A 2375 lb. curb weight isn't a little car.

The 1.5L Yaris is comparable to the typical old big block V8 American passenger cars' performance. There's a thread on here pointing out that it will beat a 1980 Chevy Z-28 Camaro. Standards change over time. You young guys that think it's pokey don't know how good you've got it.

127.0.0.1 · 05-28-2010, 10:21 AM

it isn't horsepower it is torque

and the Yaris has enough torque to bop around just fine

oh yeah many many cars will just flatten it, but that is not what I got
this thing for. it is small yet roomy, and good on gas. that is all I care about

mrb3990 · 05-28-2010, 11:52 AM

I have a manual transmission and am very satisfied with the acceleration power. Anyone who bought an automatic and complains about acceleration only has themselves to blame.

DIPLOMATIC · 05-29-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mrb3990

I have a manual transmission and am very satisfied with the acceleration power. Anyone who bought an automatic and complains about acceleration only has themselves to blame.

I bought an automatic and I do think the acceleration is a bit slow compared to other automatic cars I have driven, however the overall torque and speed of the car is just fine for me. I have had it up to 110 mph with no problems.

Stove · 05-29-2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DIPLOMATIC

I have had it up to 110 mph with no problems.

Did you do that on the test drive?

DIPLOMATIC · 05-29-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stove

Did you do that on the test drive?

haha no there is actually a funny story behind it. I was actually driving in third gear for about 1,000 miles when I first got the car. If you have ever seen the automatic, you know the shift has one slot for both Drive and 3rd gear, and me being the idiot I am, I confused the slot for 3 and D being the same gear.

Anyway I was driving on the highway when some tool in a civic thought he was macho and cut into my lane doing probably 90. Well I saw that my exit was ahead so I quickly passed him and double laned to the exit ramp so he had no chance of passing me; the engine humming all the way because the car was in 3rd gear; at 110mph. When I was showing my new car to my father one day he told me to be careful and make sure that I shift into D and not 3 because I will blow the motor if I drive at 5 rpm for a long time.

My stomach dropped, and I have never made that mistake again. How lucky I am to realize what a fool I was before I caused a serious problem.

bobselectric · 05-30-2010, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Stove

Did you do that on the test drive?

Right before the airbag test

id3379 · 05-30-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mrb3990

I have a manual transmission and am very satisfied with the acceleration power. Anyone who bought an automatic and complains about acceleration only has themselves to blame.

05-28-2010, 02:42 AM	#1
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	Is a Yaris Really That Slow? I was driving behind a base Celica GT and noticed I could keep up with no problem, even up to highway speeds. No I was not racing, but the kid in front of me decided to floor it from a stop and I had to see if I could keep up. Surprisingly enough I did. I know a lot of people think the Yaris as being slow, but how slow is it compared to the average daily driver? It seems to be dead on average, or even a bit better that average from what I have experienced. __________________ 1990 Mazda Miata... I miss my Yaris

05-28-2010, 02:50 AM	#2
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	yeah it's easy to look at its "only" 100ish horsepower and think the car is slow, but that's more than enough thanks to the relatively light weight of the car. I can merge into 50MPH traffic without needing to put the pedal all the way to the metal, that's my benchmark :D Of course, I would not say no to more power :D __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

05-28-2010, 03:14 AM	#3
detroiter Drives: 2008 Polar White LB Auto Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,238	I say the car should have came with 130-140hp. I don't know why car companies are so afraid of giving a "cheap car" a little bit of power...without charging a rediculous price for it. Never understood why they do that. A yaris with 100 hp is a cheap car with a cheap price. A same exact everything yaris but with 130 hp would cost $2-$3,000 dollars more. Whatever happened to making a cheap affordable car that had some punch to it. Alot of car companies fell off if you ask me. __________________ I live my life a quarter pounder at a time. And for those 500 calories or more, I'm free. I need FRIES! Two of them. The big ones. Oh, and I need them tonight. You're lucky the double shot of BBQ sauce didn't blow the seam on your nugget box. There she is, 2 pounds of pure beef. My dad ate it in 9.0 seconds flat. Check it out, it's like this. If I lose, winner takes my happy meal. But if I win, I take the burger and the toy. To some people, that's more important.

05-28-2010, 05:46 AM	#8
BluYrs ヴィッツドライバー View User's Garage Drives: 2006 3d 1.0 Linea Sol Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 433	The performance of the Yaris in everyday taffic greatly depends on the driver's skills. You have to be in the right gear at the right time, you can't just punch it whenever you feel like it. So it takes a bit more attention to find the torque sweetspot and to make most of the engine. But when you do, it's a hoot to trash around. Given the above, I can't say my Yaris is slow. Sure, it takes a good 15 seconds to reach 100kmh/60mph and you have to change gear more often, but driven right it can be surprisingly swift. __________________ The blue one

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yariphilia Drives: 08 lb Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: tampa Posts: 13	yes, the yaris is slow. no it doesn't get great gas mileage. the 1.8l corolla is rated the same out of the box. my friend has an xd with the corolla motor and its auto and she is getting 39-41 mpg, dead on with what i'm getting. in 1992 honda built the civic cx, gas motor, 1.5l single cam vtec-e and it was rated somewhere around 50 mpg... 18 years later and the 1nzfe cant compare? this leads to the conclusion that the yaris is just a cheap car that is environmentally friendly. doesnt mean it will keep me from going fast though, its already been done :)

05-28-2010, 08:19 AM	#10
Lewis Our off road vehicle Drives: 2009 Yaris 3dr Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 198	This discussion is strange to me as I get to Europe and there the 1.5 motor is the "hot" Yaris. You want to see slow? Try the 1.2 gas or the diesel Yaris and you will discover what slow REALLY is! My feeling is that if speed is your goal perhaps you should drive something other than a Yaris :-) My photo shows another slow vehicle that is excellent off road!

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Yaris Hilton Half a Bubble Off Plumb Drives: 2009 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, Tennessee, USA Posts: 1,593	You can't directly compare old and new EPA mileage figures, because the test procedures changed to lower the figures in the 2007 model year. The AT Yaris got switched from 34/40 to 29/35. More crash protection structure, air bags and stuff runs up the car weight and that makes a big difference. A 2375 lb. curb weight isn't a little car. The 1.5L Yaris is comparable to the typical old big block V8 American passenger cars' performance. There's a thread on here pointing out that it will beat a 1980 Chevy Z-28 Camaro. Standards change over time. You young guys that think it's pokey don't know how good you've got it.

05-28-2010, 10:21 AM	#12
127.0.0.1 Banned Drives: '10 Yaris5drHB+99 4runner LTD Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NE Posts: 672	it isn't horsepower it is torque and the Yaris has enough torque to bop around just fine oh yeah many many cars will just flatten it, but that is not what I got this thing for. it is small yet roomy, and good on gas. that is all I care about

05-28-2010, 11:52 AM	#13
mrb3990 Drives: 2010 Yaris Blcksandpearl sdn Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 25	I have a manual transmission and am very satisfied with the acceleration power. Anyone who bought an automatic and complains about acceleration only has themselves to blame.