Toyota has some problems

[nemelek]

Article in todays paper.

[Hershey]

TOYOTA wanted to surpass G.M. for the world spot and sacrificed quality with quantity . What a shame . I think G.M. reclaimed that position .

[.Kevin.]

I would stick with Toyota, when you're the best everyone waits for you to make a mistake and it doesn't help that in North America all the red necks laugh at imports because they are mentally ill.

GM screws up all the time, and it is so frequent that everyone just accepts it now and if Toyota messes up once it is suddenly not okay to have a fault.

This is what I would say as my closing statement if I was Toyoda.

[carnageehw]

Originally Posted by .Kevin.

I would stick with Toyota, when you're the best everyone waits for you to make a mistake and it doesn't help that in North America all the red necks laugh at imports because they are mentally ill.

GM screws up all the time, and it is so frequent that everyone just accepts it now and if Toyota messes up once it is suddenly not okay to have a fault.

This is what I would say as my closing statement if I was Toyoda.

GM has had good reliability for a good number of years now. You can laugh at "rednecks" who laugh at imports, but pretending GM is still the company of the late 90's early 2000's is foolish as well.

Toyota simply fell into the same trap GM did. They got big, they had to make all these cars, which means pushing your employees harder than what is ideal, and quality suffers. Because you're number one you get a little lazy and complacent.

And Toyota's woes are coming at a time when other companies are making really, really great cars.

There's not reason to assume they won't bounce back though, but they have to start having a sense of urgency.

[Black_griffin6]

I would still buy a Toyota and I would still recommend one to a friend.
I don't think they've totally lost their way, but I do think they need to take a step back to try and catch up with the competition.

[shinlee]

Originally Posted by .Kevin.

I would stick with Toyota, when you're the best everyone waits for you to make a mistake and it doesn't help that in North America all the red necks laugh at imports because they are mentally ill.

GM screws up all the time, and it is so frequent that everyone just accepts it now and if Toyota messes up once it is suddenly not okay to have a fault.

This is what I would say as my closing statement if I was Toyoda.

Honestly, how many rednecks can there really be in a continent to degrade the percieved quality of toyota?

Red necks laugh at imports cuz to them, they are impractical and useless except to drive around. They want a vehicle that goes fast/hauls alot of stuff, and drive for enjoyment, which is why Nascar is so popular to them.

[RedRide]

They will survive and bounce back.
Ford was in a simular position a few years ago and and now, they are doing fantastic.

To be honest, If I was buying a car today, I would seriously consider a Ford.

[Altitude]

So did I miss the news about this great breakthrough with US manufacturers and the increased mileage ratings? Or have we been lied to for years and making fuel efficient vehicles isn't as hard as they have made it seem?

[SailDesign]

Originally Posted by Altitude

So did I miss the news about this great breakthrough with US manufacturers and the increased mileage ratings? Or have we been lied to for years and making fuel efficient vehicles isn't as hard as they have made it seem?

No - it's because the EPA changed the way the fuel economy is calculated, making really economical cars seem worse, and less economical cars seem better. Plus, with one super-eco model in each line-up, US mfrs can say "gets up to" XX mpg for each model. Without having to mention that it is only the expensive, slow car that does that.
It's called "advertising"

[Shinare]

Yah, that second part....

[.Kevin.]

Only thing I'd buy from ford is the FORD RAPTOR

[shinlee]

I'm trying hard not to convince myself to get into a new 11 mustang honestly.... But if I was looking at eco vehicles, I would go for a cruz right about now for a sedan, or a fiesta for the hb

[.Kevin.]

USA Buys more trucks yet they have no reason to than we do in Canada, so I'd say the rednecks are here.

Also I also looked at the 2011's but my yaris is fine. snow here would rape a 2011 stang too

[toad]

the koreans are doing some pretty good things right now too....

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

I love Korean BBQ.

[frownonfun]

Lol, rednecks in Canada. It's hard to imagine there's all that many but then again, I've never been to Canada. Still it's amusing to think about. Do they talk with a draw AND say "eh" at the end of things. lol.

[.Kevin.]

Originally Posted by frownonfun

Lol, rednecks in Canada. It's hard to imagine there's all that many but then again, I've never been to Canada. Still it's amusing to think about. Do they talk with a draw AND say "eh" at the end of things. lol.

4/5 vehicles in my town are trucks.

[why?]

Originally Posted by p123456789

Honestly toyota is going to have to step the game WAY up in order to compete with gm and ford, the new focus and cruz are much nicer vehicles than the the yaris or carolla. I dont get what poeple have against domestic car companies on this forum its like half the poeple on here have a huge stereotype on everyone whoe drives a truck or suv.

how many decades of absolute trash do you need to have before you realize american cars are trash? Seriously a handful of decent years won't erase decades of garbage.

I highly doubt chrysler can recover, their dealer network has such a bad reputation i don't see how anyone would want to go their.

GM has a couple good looking cars, but no history of reliability, and a long history of trash.

Ford has some momentum going, and some decent advertising, plus they didn't sell their soul to the government, so that is a major plus. Still it is going to take a decade of solid reliability before people will trust them again.

And besides hit pieces like this, even the government had to admit toyota did nothing wrong, and their reliability was just slandered, and was really fine. I just wish Toyota's boss' had the guts to tell off the senate.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7180BK20110209