Yaris HB: A-Pillars Project - Toyota Yaris Forums

TOLMACH · 08-29-2011, 01:06 AM

Inspired by Derick and his mega-project ))

Yaris HB owners are blessed by huge A-pillars.. I am trying to have midranges and tweeters installed as first phase of my audio project.

Comments and suggestions highly welcome in this thread

Thanks

Pavel

sqcomp · 08-29-2011, 02:49 AM

Hey Derick,

Since you were named as the inspiration for his work, should I stay mute on this? There are some questions that I have on this before TOLMACH goes any farther...

Screw it, TOLMACH, thow us pics of the mids and tweets. Your baffles are WAY too big as I see the picture. Your pillars are going to be massive. We need to shrink this down a little. I'm betting the we can shrink the baffles down in thickness AND put the mounting of the speakers closer into the pillars.

^Think about different angles on the drivers.

^Keeping the tweeter and the midrange as close as possible reduces phasing issues.

Why was your tweeter separated so much from the midrange?

I wish we could have seen this BEFORE you cut the holes...

There are some other suggestions I have seeing as I've done this a few times myself...

sqcomp · 08-29-2011, 03:02 AM

All that being said...I'm doing another set of pillars over the next month. You could watch the progress on them if you'd like.

yarisugi · 08-29-2011, 03:21 AM

wow that looks awesome - like it came from factory!
how'd you get the fiberglass molded so smoothly?
Lots and lots of sanding I suppose?

TOLMACH · 08-29-2011, 03:21 AM

SQCOMP, Thanks for comments

I could easily make the pods less massive, however, in this case they would be poited towards each other which is not good (IMO of course). I want these guys be pointed at least somewhat towards the front listeners. Also, even for a three inch midrange some free space around would be nice. Anyways, my pods will not be very massive- should look ok.

Mids are "older brothers" of Derick's hertz hl70- Voce 3.0 (cheap ones, not thesis ones) - inexpensive but nice sounding speakers.

Tweeters will be pointing each .. I've got a couple tweeters for this project that have decent off - axis response.

sqcomp · 08-29-2011, 06:40 AM

I'm going to be a little pointed with my next comment, don't take offense...

What in the word does the size of the pods or the baffle have to do with aiming? I will agree with the idea that some space is nice...that being said as long as you've separated the front wave from the back wave, the Yaris's pillars "vent" down into the dash.

My comment was really based on the baffle I see in you picture. It looks uber thick. What is the thickness of the baffle?

Notice my pillars? I was able to win the Western Canadian IASCA finals with these. Look how they're aimed. Also note I have time alignment on the source and in my processor.

@Yarisugi -

Yes, lots of sanding! high build primer, texture coat, and paint...

vten · 08-29-2011, 10:34 AM

nice built Sqcomp. what drivers are those ?? any chance to make me those pillars ?

TOLMACH · 08-29-2011, 01:43 PM

ready for epoxy resin

sqcomp · 08-29-2011, 01:51 PM

Resin that $hit! Woot!

PM to you vten

Emerge · 08-29-2011, 03:42 PM

Tolmach could you post links to the speakers you are using?

TOLMACH · 08-29-2011, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emerge

Tolmach could you post links to the speakers you are using?

Midranges
http://www.audison.eu/index_main.php?Section=VOCEAV30

Tweeters are sort of rare - something like 500 pairs were made by a Russia - based company. Inexpensive by decent tweeters. Some (far not all) of EOS stuff is sold in the USA under the RAMM AUDIO brand

http://photo.qip.ru/users/tolmach/95112742/124385896/

http://www.rammaudio.com/products-0.htm

I not sure this will help .. you can use lots of other speakers as well.

derickveliz2 · 08-30-2011, 01:48 AM

Where the heck I was!
Irene was visiting me over the weekend

Yeah, Sqcomp is right, I know it's "too late" but...
you need to make all what's possible to keep your speakers as far from each other, he told me that before and I did. If I had to do them all over again I would try even harder. Now I understand a lot of things people talk about, advice or recommend me.

D.

vten · 08-30-2011, 10:39 AM

nice pods !! makes me wanna come back to the car audio world , but the time is changed

found this on the net ...

TOLMACH · 08-31-2011, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vten

nice pods !! makes me wanna come back to the car audio world , but the time is changed

found this on the net ...

thanks for the pic .. these are beautiful pods.. and nice thesis speakers..

I am wondering what these guys used to cover the pods - is it vynil or cloth?

TOLMACH · 08-31-2011, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Where the heck I was!
Irene was visiting me over the weekend

Yeah, Sqcomp is right, I know it's "too late" but...
you need to make all what's possible to keep your speakers as far from each other, he told me that before and I did. If I had to do them all over again I would try even harder. Now I understand a lot of things people talk about, advice or recommend me.

D.

Thanks, Derick

I am afraid everything is not that simple (keep'em as far as possible) ((

sqcomp · 08-30-2011, 12:06 PM

^That isn't a yaris though...

Still, There are many little tweaks that can be done.

Hey Vten, what source are you using?

vten · 08-30-2011, 03:37 PM

Its a vw ... Got the pics from diyma :)

sqcomp · 08-30-2011, 03:40 PM

What source are you using?

08-29-2011, 02:49 AM	#2
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Hey Derick, Since you were named as the inspiration for his work, should I stay mute on this? There are some questions that I have on this before TOLMACH goes any farther... Screw it, TOLMACH, thow us pics of the mids and tweets. Your baffles are WAY too big as I see the picture. Your pillars are going to be massive. We need to shrink this down a little. I'm betting the we can shrink the baffles down in thickness AND put the mounting of the speakers closer into the pillars. ^Think about different angles on the drivers. ^Keeping the tweeter and the midrange as close as possible reduces phasing issues. Why was your tweeter separated so much from the midrange? I wish we could have seen this BEFORE you cut the holes... There are some other suggestions I have seeing as I've done this a few times myself... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine Last edited by sqcomp; 08-29-2011 at 03:00 AM.

08-29-2011, 03:02 AM	#3
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	All that being said...I'm doing another set of pillars over the next month. You could watch the progress on them if you'd like. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

08-29-2011, 06:40 AM	#6
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I'm going to be a little pointed with my next comment, don't take offense... What in the word does the size of the pods or the baffle have to do with aiming? I will agree with the idea that some space is nice...that being said as long as you've separated the front wave from the back wave, the Yaris's pillars "vent" down into the dash. My comment was really based on the baffle I see in you picture. It looks uber thick. What is the thickness of the baffle? Notice my pillars? I was able to win the Western Canadian IASCA finals with these. Look how they're aimed. Also note I have time alignment on the source and in my processor. @Yarisugi - Yes, lots of sanding! high build primer, texture coat, and paint... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

08-29-2011, 01:51 PM	#9
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Resin that $hit! Woot! PM to you vten __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

08-29-2011, 03:42 PM	#10
Emerge On a trek to upgrade... Drives: 2003 Echo Coupe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 121	Tolmach could you post links to the speakers you are using? __________________

08-29-2011, 03:21 AM	#4
yarisugi やりすぎだ～ View User's Garage Drives: Me: Nuts: Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ハワイ Posts: 2,041	wow that looks awesome - like it came from factory! how'd you get the fiberglass molded so smoothly? Lots and lots of sanding I suppose?

08-29-2011, 03:21 AM	#5
TOLMACH Drives: soarer Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Posts: 954	SQCOMP, Thanks for comments I could easily make the pods less massive, however, in this case they would be poited towards each other which is not good (IMO of course). I want these guys be pointed at least somewhat towards the front listeners. Also, even for a three inch midrange some free space around would be nice. Anyways, my pods will not be very massive- should look ok. Mids are "older brothers" of Derick's hertz hl70- Voce 3.0 (cheap ones, not thesis ones) - inexpensive but nice sounding speakers. Tweeters will be pointing each .. I've got a couple tweeters for this project that have decent off - axis response.

08-29-2011, 10:34 AM	#7
vten Drives: red bare bone yaris hb 3dr Join Date: May 2009 Location: columbus Posts: 1,022	nice built Sqcomp. what drivers are those ?? any chance to make me those pillars ?

08-30-2011, 01:48 AM	#12
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Where the heck I was! Irene was visiting me over the weekend Yeah, Sqcomp is right, I know it's "too late" but... you need to make all what's possible to keep your speakers as far from each other, he told me that before and I did. If I had to do them all over again I would try even harder. Now I understand a lot of things people talk about, advice or recommend me. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

08-30-2011, 12:06 PM	#16
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	^That isn't a yaris though... Still, There are many little tweaks that can be done. Hey Vten, what source are you using? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

08-30-2011, 03:37 PM	#17
vten Drives: red bare bone yaris hb 3dr Join Date: May 2009 Location: columbus Posts: 1,022	Its a vw ... Got the pics from diyma :)

08-30-2011, 03:40 PM	#18
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	What source are you using? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

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