Yaris hatchback vs Sedan weight difference etc..... - Toyota Yaris Forums

tyrone_yaris · 11-13-2012, 04:58 AM

Hi,

Just wondering is there a difference in weight etc between the yaris sedan and hatchback also called Vitz (hatchback) and Belta (sedan) here. Out here in our part of the world there is a general perception that the Sedan is underpowered due to the boot space and hence a heavier and extra load on the engine both of which are 1000 cc 1KR FE. Btw....both cars have the same engine specs here in the 1,000 cc category i.e. the 1KR FE engine. There are also 1300 cc variants too.

However, I have driven and owned both cars (hatch and sedan 1,000 cc engine) and found no difference in the pick and drive whatsoever. In fact I find the sedan mre responsive and powerful.

Surprisingly I have noted that both the cars have a curb weight of 990 kg

Anyone else care to add some info / experience they have using either of these wonderful vehicles?

Tyrone

tyrone_yaris · 11-14-2012, 04:53 AM

Hmmm...no one with any feedback / input???????

tyrone_yaris · 11-14-2012, 11:39 PM

Hellooooooo anyone there????????

nookandcrannycar · 11-14-2012, 11:53 PM

I've never driven a Yaris sedan. I've never felt that my Yaris hatchback is underpowered....perhaps partially because of the manual transmission. I had a Suzuki Swift with a manual transmission before the Yaris and I always felt I could get enough power from downshifting. We don't have a choice of engines for the Yaris here in the U.S. (1.5 L only), and the sedan hasn't been available for individual cutomers since the 2010 model year (if I'm not mistaken). I widh we had engine choices. I'd go for the 1.0 if it meant a 10% bump in MPG, but that size engine hasn't been enormously popular in the U.S. in the past.

tyrone_yaris · 11-15-2012, 12:09 AM

Thanks for your feed back. Here we have the 1.0 L and 1.3 L both in the hatchback the subcompact sedan. Also have the 1.5 RS in the hatch back too

screenprintr · 11-15-2012, 09:56 PM

Since I've never driven anything other than the Sedan I don't know either. Believe you mentioned the Hatchback has more power.

I'd hate to be driving these little Go-Carts full speed and run into an 18 wheeler. It would be like a bug hitting my car.

tyrone_yaris · 11-15-2012, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by screenprintr

Since I've never driven anything other than the Sedan I don't know either. Believe you mentioned the Hatchback has more power.

I'd hate to be driving these little Go-Carts full speed and run into an 18 wheeler. It would be like a bug hitting my car.

Lol...what versions do you guys have there. Here we have the 1.0L, 1.3L in both sedan and hatch back. The hatchback also has an RS version 1.5L

2o6 · 11-15-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tyrone_yaris

Lol...what versions do you guys have there. Here we have the 1.0L, 1.3L in both sedan and hatch back. The hatchback also has an RS version 1.5L

Just the 1.5L in the USA.

The Sedan is slightly heavier than the Hatchback, but it's more aerodynamic and has a longer wheelbase than the hatchback. Performance is roughly the same with either. Sedan might be a bit better on the freeway; at least the ride is.

tyrone_yaris · 11-16-2012, 12:08 AM

Oh ok ...thanks 2o6

Chuck G · 11-16-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 2o6

Just the 1.5L in the USA.

The Sedan is slightly heavier than the Hatchback, but it's more aerodynamic and has a longer wheelbase than the hatchback. Performance is roughly the same with either. Sedan might be a bit better on the freeway; at least the ride is.

Drove both & the sedan felt more stable at higher speeds.
So this would make sense.

JumpmanYaris · 11-16-2012, 04:45 PM

There is a thread sticky with specs of both cars

b20vteg · 11-17-2012, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

I've never felt that my Yaris hatchback is underpowered....perhaps partially because of the manual transmission.

i do. i think it's the gearing though. second feels extremely long...

AGlobalThreat · 11-17-2012, 08:37 PM

I have a 2008 sedan with 85000 miles and a 2011 5-door with 14000 miles. My sedan handles better than my 5-door.

There's so many variables though. They would need to have the same tires+pressure, alignment, same suspension wear, same amount of gas in the tank, etc. to get an accurate comparison between the different chassis.

bestyaris · 11-17-2012, 10:06 PM

I drive sedan, so can't comment on HB.
I assume, HB is light (than sedan) so it should give better MPG?

I would take 1.0 over 1.5 any day... even it give 0 to 60 in 20s...
Yaris is not a fast car to start with..

MUSKOKA800 · 11-18-2012, 10:22 AM

This topic was discussed back when I first got my sedan. Then, Toyota listed the sedan as a few kg lighter than the sedan. Cannot recall the exact amount but it wasn't significant.

DebbyM46227 · 11-18-2012, 04:02 PM

I compared the 2010 models. IIRC, the sedan is about 100 lbs. more than a hatch, but the sedan is more aerodynamic and gets a little better MPG.

jayeh · 11-18-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by b20vteg

i do. i think it's the gearing though. second feels extremely long...

I've got the AT and find the throttle too damn touchy. I've driven all kinds of vehicles but find my damn yaris the hardest to control the throttle. It was a month of learning to get used to it.

Kar98 · 11-18-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bestyaris

I would take 1.0 over 1.5 any day... even it give 0 to 60 in 20s...

Yikes, no way. Before the Yaris, I had a Golf with the 2.0, and I'm missing that half liter very much.

11-13-2012, 04:58 AM	#1
tyrone_yaris Drives: Toyota Vitz 2007 facelift Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Karachi, Pakistan Posts: 103	Yaris hatchback vs Sedan weight difference etc..... Hi, Just wondering is there a difference in weight etc between the yaris sedan and hatchback also called Vitz (hatchback) and Belta (sedan) here. Out here in our part of the world there is a general perception that the Sedan is underpowered due to the boot space and hence a heavier and extra load on the engine both of which are 1000 cc 1KR FE. Btw....both cars have the same engine specs here in the 1,000 cc category i.e. the 1KR FE engine. There are also 1300 cc variants too. However, I have driven and owned both cars (hatch and sedan 1,000 cc engine) and found no difference in the pick and drive whatsoever. In fact I find the sedan mre responsive and powerful. Surprisingly I have noted that both the cars have a curb weight of 990 kg Anyone else care to add some info / experience they have using either of these wonderful vehicles? Tyrone

11-17-2012, 08:37 PM	#13
AGlobalThreat Drives: 08 Sedan & 11 5-door Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Socal Posts: 16	I have a 2008 sedan with 85000 miles and a 2011 5-door with 14000 miles. My sedan handles better than my 5-door. There's so many variables though. They would need to have the same tires+pressure, alignment, same suspension wear, same amount of gas in the tank, etc. to get an accurate comparison between the different chassis. Last edited by AGlobalThreat; 11-19-2012 at 02:57 PM. Reason: Refined post

11-17-2012, 10:06 PM	#14
bestyaris Drives: Polar White 4 Dr Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: VA Posts: 22	I drive sedan, so can't comment on HB. I assume, HB is light (than sedan) so it should give better MPG? I would take 1.0 over 1.5 any day... even it give 0 to 60 in 20s... Yaris is not a fast car to start with.. __________________ 2007 Yaris Base Sedan

11-18-2012, 10:22 AM	#15
MUSKOKA800 Drives: '08 Yaris Sedan, Aero Package Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,720	This topic was discussed back when I first got my sedan. Then, Toyota listed the sedan as a few kg lighter than the sedan. Cannot recall the exact amount but it wasn't significant. __________________ TRD Upgrades: 18" Wheels wrapped in 215/35/18 PZero's, Sportivo Shocks/Struts, Lowering Springs, Swaybar, Axle-Back Exhaust, Oil Cap, Rad Cap, Signage. Aftermarket Goodies: Piggies SS, K&N Drop-In, Blitz S/C, DC Header, NST Pulley) Toyota Options/Accessories: Sport Pedal Covers, Sport Shift Knob, Ipod Interface, Summer Mats, Winter Mats, Cruise Control, Auto-Dim Mirror, Echo steelies with winter boots.

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11-14-2012, 04:53 AM	#2
tyrone_yaris Drives: Toyota Vitz 2007 facelift Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Karachi, Pakistan Posts: 103	Hmmm...no one with any feedback / input???????

11-14-2012, 11:39 PM	#3
tyrone_yaris Drives: Toyota Vitz 2007 facelift Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Karachi, Pakistan Posts: 103	Hellooooooo anyone there????????

11-14-2012, 11:53 PM	#4
nookandcrannycar Drives: 2('14+'07)MT 3d ,wHandCrWndws! Join Date: May 2009 Location: S.MontgomeryCnty,TX(HoustonMSA) '07=BayouBlue=300,125miles=OrigOwnr '14=ClassicSilvr=29,059miles Posts: 4,839	I've never driven a Yaris sedan. I've never felt that my Yaris hatchback is underpowered....perhaps partially because of the manual transmission. I had a Suzuki Swift with a manual transmission before the Yaris and I always felt I could get enough power from downshifting. We don't have a choice of engines for the Yaris here in the U.S. (1.5 L only), and the sedan hasn't been available for individual cutomers since the 2010 model year (if I'm not mistaken). I widh we had engine choices. I'd go for the 1.0 if it meant a 10% bump in MPG, but that size engine hasn't been enormously popular in the U.S. in the past.

11-15-2012, 12:09 AM	#5
tyrone_yaris Drives: Toyota Vitz 2007 facelift Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Karachi, Pakistan Posts: 103	Thanks for your feed back. Here we have the 1.0 L and 1.3 L both in the hatchback the subcompact sedan. Also have the 1.5 RS in the hatch back too

11-15-2012, 09:56 PM	#6
screenprintr Drives: 2010 Toyota Yaris Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 213	Since I've never driven anything other than the Sedan I don't know either. Believe you mentioned the Hatchback has more power. I'd hate to be driving these little Go-Carts full speed and run into an 18 wheeler. It would be like a bug hitting my car.

11-16-2012, 12:08 AM	#9
tyrone_yaris Drives: Toyota Vitz 2007 facelift Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Karachi, Pakistan Posts: 103	Oh ok ...thanks 2o6

11-18-2012, 04:02 PM	#16
DebbyM46227 View User's Garage Drives: 2017 Yaris IA, Pulse Red, Auto Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 538	I compared the 2010 models. IIRC, the sedan is about 100 lbs. more than a hatch, but the sedan is more aerodynamic and gets a little better MPG.