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06-02-2007, 09:15 PM | #1 |
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Yaris' Auto-X #1 RIVAL???
I'd like to know this since I'm buying a Yar for Auto-X"ing" and like to know which cars are its rivals and if possible what is the worse car I want to see at the Yaris' class when I'm auto crossing?
Is the EG6 in that list and AE92 on that list? Thanks peeps!
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06-03-2007, 03:04 PM | #2 |
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C'mon any tips on which car I should be aware of when Auto crossing?
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06-03-2007, 03:53 PM | #3 |
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What class?
In HS, Mini Cooper totally destroys the class. Although if you ever run across a stock Lotus Cortina, it would kill everything in HS too. In STS, EF Civic Si is the fastest car. Since the class started in 01, 10 out of the 12 national champs have been 88-89 hatches. |
06-03-2007, 07:12 PM | #4 | |
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Is the Mini Cooper and Miata better in handling than the Yaris?
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06-03-2007, 07:21 PM | #5 |
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Yes. Keep in mind the yaris is still, all in all, designed as an econ car. The miata would dominate it.
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06-03-2007, 07:35 PM | #6 |
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Doesn't Miata belong in different class? The SCCA has a lot of info on their website but I am too lazy to look up I think unmodifed goes in CS or ES depending on year. In my area several guys run modifieds in CSP or STS2.
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06-03-2007, 10:06 PM | #7 | |
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1.8L Miatas rule CS 1.6L Miatas have their hands full with MR2s in ES. My old 280ZX was in E Stock too. Locally, the CSP Miatas are almost the FTD cars. Well they are the FTD CARS ;) Thoes F125 karts beat them though. 2 out of the 3 STS2 national Champs have been Miatas. A Yaris doesn't compete directly with a Miata in any class unless they go crazy and you go crazy and meet in A, D, or E Mod. In A mod, any car based vehicle will get destroyed. In D mod, EVERY champion since 1984 has been Lotus based (7, Elan, or Europa). Basically, because the Yaris is classed in H Stock, the SCCA believes every car in Super Stock, A, B, C, D, E, F, and G stock will be faster. But saying that, any car can be competitive in its class locally. IMHO the Yaris should be a good autox car because of the tiny wheelbase. The COG hurts it though. Like any car, if your new to autox its a good learning tool. |
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06-03-2007, 10:38 PM | #8 |
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What mods should I stay away from if I don't want to see "Yaris Eaters" at the Auto-X lot?
Also, I have a friend with an EG6 (JDM-R w/ built internals, light suspension mods and 60shot ZEX) and he keeps on telling me that an EG6 will take over the Auto-X track over any car in its class? Is this true or is he just being Ricer? (He doesn't auto x BTW.)
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06-03-2007, 11:44 PM | #9 |
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gosh, if you want to learn auto-x, buy a used miata or even a celica and go beat it up. You'll spend less than you would on a new Yaris with mods, and I believe a Miata with suspension work would teach you more about racing. Just my opinion.
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R-Compounds on stock size wheels (any different size wheels will re-class you) TRD shocks and springs. Or Eibach Pro-kit on TRD struts. Bigger front sway bar once someone releases one (A rear sway will re-class you though) With practice, that should make a Yaris very competative in H Stock. Quote:
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06-04-2007, 02:24 PM | #11 | |
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While that is true, I'll bet money you could put Michael Schumacher in a stock Yaris and he'd still get demolished by a teenager driving a stock Mini Cooper as long as said teen didn't crash or go off the track. No matter how much one may want to escape the fact, the Yaris is slow and is not made for racing by any means. I suggest a cheap, light RWD car with a manual transmission and no ABS for learning how to drive properly on the track, the Yaris is the wrong car for the job.
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06-04-2007, 02:51 PM | #12 |
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As the owner of 94 Miata, I would agree that anyone wanting to improve driving skills would benefit from driving one. However, as Yaris owner, I'd like to suggest that the jury is still out in how it will perform in autocross; until then, why not give it a try and see how you do?
Here's a little encouragement: the results of Deland Autocross back in March. As you can see, Yaris came out pretty well (a class of 4 cars would be about average in my area too). Besides, isn't beating your own best time the real challenge in autocross? Last edited by kurokoma-kun; 11-24-2008 at 09:20 AM. |
06-04-2007, 05:07 PM | #13 |
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The Yaris is excellent at Autox . I got 2 wins in HS . I got a 6th and 7th OVERALL out of 150 or so cars . All 5 and 6 drivers that bested my time were national champs . One of the national champs wants to drive my car b/c he said my car is definately National Champ material . We think we can get FTD .
I went to the Dragon again this past weekend . There was a guy in a Turbo charged (300bhp) Volvo S70 up there . He wanted to run against me . So we went . I was up front . Going into and exiting turns I would walk him , but turbo would help him run me down . Then I let him up front . He NEVER got more than 5 cars in front . In the turns I would be right back on his ass . I would actually have to slow down when I caught him . We all know how the Yaris accelerates The Volvo owner was shocked when I told him I only had 103 hp . The Volvo owner has this battle on video . I don't know if he will release the vid b/c I was definately holding my own , with only 103 hp . Next time , I will bring my dry tires |
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whoo doggies!!!
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06-04-2007, 10:47 PM | #16 |
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I run my car in STS and have a friendly rivalry with some of the other drivers in my class. I don't really have any competition with the G and H stock class and I out ran the 911, Audi TT and Subaru Impreza wagon. My competition I find in STS are the Civics and the Acura's. It also depends on the track layout so I prefer the track layout that is tight. I run with 215 x 45 x 16 in tires on Falken 615's which I use as a track tire only. My street rubbers are 17 inchers.
With the big brake kit, I'll be in STX according to CACC rules (Canada, but they're all the same, pretty much). Believe it or not there's alot less competition there! I have a 07 GTI to worry about there and he's got HP to go. It does come down to the driver. Driving fast is one thing but knowing when to brake, when to turn and how to take your line are all important factors. You won't beat a Miata or Lotus that's for sure. Just don't brake while your are turning and learn to adjust your tire pressures to balance out your car and you won't really need to worry about all those addons like roll bars. R comps are nice too or just a set of Falken 615's.
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good comments, and I do look forward to seeing what the Yaris can do on the track. I was at a Time Attack event and the Kaminari Yaris did ok. As noted, fast in the turns, slow on the straights -- nothing a little boost can't fix.
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