2019 Yaris Hatchback dead in the US? The internet says yes!

[myfirstyota]

My brother works for Tesla. I'd be way more inclined to buy an ev from an auto manufacturer that already knows how to make cars. Not one that just entered the game. Ask me why I think that way lol

[Hamster]

Originally Posted by myfirstyota

My brother works for Tesla. I'd be way more inclined to buy an ev from an auto manufacturer that already knows how to make cars. Not one that just entered the game. Ask me why I think that way lol

Well, why do you think that way? Please fill us in!

[toad]

Originally Posted by myfirstyota

My brother works for Tesla. I'd be way more inclined to buy an ev from an auto manufacturer that already knows how to make cars. Not one that just entered the game. Ask me why I think that way lol

I hear that argument a lot. Makes sense that you would want to stick with a company that's been doing it for a hundred years. However, here's where I think Tesla has an advantage: they are starting from scratch and don't have to perform a delicate balancing act between the past and the future. What I mean is that the major automakers can't afford to 'bite the hand that feeds them' too much. gasoline-fueled trucks, SUVs, and crossovers are their $$$(notice I didn't say sedans or compacts- RIP Yaris)

Tesla, on the other hand, is all-in and this makes for a scary time for owners and the company. I personally don't have the stomach for that much anxiety, but many people have made the jump and most- from what I'm reading- won't ever go back. In the end, I think tesla will be very successful(again, if they can make the cheaper version) and we will be grateful to them for laying the groundwork necessary to get the major automakers on board. Yeah, the cars aren't really 'affordable' yet, but their currently making the ones that generate a profit(kinda like what the big-guys are doing).

Sorry, I realize this isn't a discussion on tesla...

[myfirstyota]

Apparently tesla has had some major fitment issues. How pissed would you be if you bought a $140k model x and it started raining...inside the car. Yes, they make phenomenal batteries. Yes, their drivetrains are solid. Yes they're an all in company pushing the envelope and breaking ground. But id just give them a few more years before I'd ever consider buying one.

"They" say to never buy the first year of a new model. I'm gonna say never buy the first decade of a new car manufacturer. Kia is a prime example. Remember the first 6 years of the sportage? Lol

[2008RedHatch]

The coming '20 Yaris hatch is based on design that's been out a few years, wont be a "first year". Mazda 2 hatches already exist overseas.

[WeeYari]

Originally Posted by 2008RedHatch

The coming '20 Yaris hatch is based on design that's been out a few years, wont be a "first year". Mazda 2 hatches already exist overseas.

The Mazda 2/Ford Fiesta was available in Canada for 4 years, 2011-2014, before being deemed a failure and pulled. Why should it be any more successful as a 'Toyota Yaris'? The only hope for success would be oil heading north of $100 USD/barrel again.

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[dogsridewith]

Originally Posted by myfirstyota

My brother works for Tesla. I'd be way more inclined to buy an ev from an auto manufacturer that already knows how to make cars. Not one that just entered the game. Ask me why I think that way lol

Baxter was the first Cobot in production, but the company went kaput when the established commercial robot companies started introducing Cobots.

[DarkShadowFox]

Originally Posted by WeeYari

The Mazda 2/Ford Fiesta was available in Canada for 4 years, 2011-2014, before being deemed a failure and pulled. Why should it be any more successful as a 'Toyota Yaris'? The only hope for success would be oil heading north of $100 USD/barrel again.

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please make oil 100 usd a barrel doug dumeuro.

[DarkShadowFox]

Originally Posted by 2008RedHatch

The coming '20 Yaris hatch is based on design that's been out a few years, wont be a "first year". Mazda 2 hatches already exist overseas.

this?

http://image.motortrend.com/f/wot/13...e-quarters.jpg

did toyota go


OH IT LOOKS LIKE A GRMN BUT IS NEW LETS USE THIS


IN TOYOTA LAND EVERYTHING HAS TO LOOK THE SAME THERE CAN BE NO UNIQUE NESSS GREY BLOBS AND WHITE WALLS AND WHITE FURNITURE AND WHITE CARS FOR THIS WHITE AMERICA.

#jk

[dogsridewith]

You'd like my Bauhaus design school sub-compact 1991 Corolla Wagon --hued grey w/ ALL black trim...bumpers, everything. Minimalist adjustable roof-rack that completely removes with six screws.

[myfirstyota]

Originally Posted by WeeYari

The Mazda 2/Ford Fiesta was available in Canada for 4 years, 2011-2014, before being deemed a failure and pulled. Why should it be any more successful as a 'Toyota Yaris'? The only hope for success would be oil heading north of $100 USD/barrel again.

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I've heard a lot of bad things about that fiesta. Mainly electrical, ecu and transmission problems. None of which are easy cheap fixes

[WeeYari]

Originally Posted by myfirstyota

I've heard a lot of bad things about that fiesta. Mainly electrical, ecu and transmission problems. None of which are easy cheap fixes

If not the worst, damn close to it, car for reliability issues for its time.

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[2008RedHatch]

Do some research, the current Yaris is not a Ford design.

There's a new generation Mazda small call platform, DJ, introduced in JDM since 2014.

So, this site will have to create a "4th gen Yaris" message board, don't like it, go buy another brand.

[tmontague]

Originally Posted by 2008RedHatch

Do some research, the current Yaris is not a Ford design.

There's a new generation Mazda small call platform, DJ, introduced in JDM since 2014.

So, this site will have to create a "4th gen Yaris" message board, don't like it, go buy another brand.

Who said it's a Ford design? It's a rebadged Mazda that appears to still use the venerable 1nz. It will he interesting to see how its reliability stacks up against the first 3 gens seeing as those were actually true Toyota's.

If it does stick with the 1nz then at least the engine will be reliable. The body may be a different story...

[suprf1y]

But it will be a 4dr.

I have zero interest in a 4dr hatch

[myfirstyota]

Originally Posted by suprf1y

But it will be a 4dr.

I have zero interest in a 4dr hatch

+1

[tmontague]

[QUOTE=suprf1y;821938]But it will be a 4dr.

I have zero interest in a 4dr

Kids change that pretty quick

[IllusionX]

Originally Posted by tmontague

Who said it's a Ford design? It's a rebadged Mazda that appears to still use the venerable 1nz. It will he interesting to see how its reliability stacks up against the first 3 gens seeing as those were actually true Toyota's.



If it does stick with the 1nz then at least the engine will be reliable. The body may be a different story...

2014+ Mazda 2 uses the 1.5 L SkyActiv F-P5-G engine. I don't this this will change. Even the previous ZY-VE engine was pretty darn reliable.
Not sure why all the worries for those who WON'T buy it anyways.

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