Kia and Hyundai.

[hairygityeti]

Originally Posted by junorico24

What the heck is going on with these two?

They have upped their game in a few years.

Now what is all this talk about stinger rwd sedan and 130 N AWD monster. What is it they can't do? they have surprised people.Hope KIA changes that badge though.

I am becoming a fan. Toyota, Honda, and Mazda better lift their game up.

Mazda have upped evryones game with thier new HCCI Skyactive-X engineHomogeneous Charge Compression Ignition, or HCCI, is a form of combustion that, like diesel, does not require spark. The compression alone ignites the fuel/air mixture much more efficiently than a conventional gasoline engine -- and it's cleaner than sooty, nitrous-oxide-plagued diesels. Mazda dubs it SkyActiv-X, the first production HCCI engine.
you can read more on it here......autoweek.com/article/technology/watch-how-mazda-built-new-engine-technology

[junorico24]

Originally Posted by hairygityeti

Mazda have upped evryones game with thier new HCCI Skyactive-X engineHomogeneous Charge Compression Ignition, or HCCI, is a form of combustion that, like diesel, does not require spark. The compression alone ignites the fuel/air mixture much more efficiently than a conventional gasoline engine -- and it's cleaner than sooty, nitrous-oxide-plagued diesels. Mazda dubs it SkyActiv-X, the first production HCCI engine.
you can read more on it here......autoweek.com/article/technology/watch-how-mazda-built-new-engine-technology

YES. I posted a thread about this.I feel that the ICE engine is on it's last legs.Electric is the future and we are already seeing companies heading in that direction.There is a shift towards electrifying vehicles. It's a bit too little too late for Mazda and the South Koreans. But we can still enjoy the ICE engine for at least a few more years even though it's will be a dying breed. I would say 10 year max the engine as we know it will gradually become less as electric zero emission vehicles takes it's place.That's my prediction, but i am no nastradamus.

For us it's time to make a decision do you stay ICE or ELECTRIC?

[hairygityeti]

Originally Posted by junorico24

YES. I posted a thread about this.I feel that the ICE engine is on it's last legs.Electric is the future and we are already seeing companies heading in that direction.There is a shift towards electrifying vehicles. It's a bit too little too late for Mazda and the South Koreans. But we can still enjoy the ICE engine for at least a few more years even though it's will be a dying breed. I would say 10 year max the engine as we know it will gradually become less as electric zero emission vehicles takes it's place.That's my prediction, but i am no nastradamus.

For us it's time to make a decision do you stay ICE or ELECTRIC?

Im a petrol head at heart but lets not forget Hydrogen.... https://ssl.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html
or the suitcase engine....
newatlas.com/nissan-zeod-rc-engine/30611/
i think there is always time for pivotal moments in automotive history to happen and surprise us,as is the way......who an tell?

[invader166]

Originally Posted by hairygityeti

Im a petrol head at heart but lets not forget Hydrogen.... https://ssl.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.html
or the suitcase engine....
newatlas.com/nissan-zeod-rc-engine/30611/
i think there is always time for pivotal moments in automotive history to happen and surprise us,as is the way......who an tell?

Hardly any hydrogen stations anywhere for that technology to take off.

Electric charging stations are more and more abundent though...

[junorico24]

Originally Posted by invader166

Hardly any hydrogen stations anywhere for that technology to take off.

Electric charging stations are more and more abundent though...

Yup. Even here in Sydney we are seeing them there's one in my area.

[Lux]

Originally Posted by junorico24

YES. I posted a thread about this.I feel that the ICE engine is on it's last legs.Electric is the future and we are already seeing companies heading in that direction.There is a shift towards electrifying vehicles. It's a bit too little too late for Mazda and the South Koreans. But we can still enjoy the ICE engine for at least a few more years even though it's will be a dying breed. I would say 10 year max the engine as we know it will gradually become less as electric zero emission vehicles takes it's place.That's my prediction, but i am no nastradamus.

For us it's time to make a decision do you stay ICE or ELECTRIC?

Near-total electrification is the future, no matter what. It's just not as near as some automakers and their faithful followers are speculating. Remember: these companies need to paint an optimistic projection to shareholders. Even if that expectation is often implausible.

Automobile electrification is the future because the automobile is used, chiefly, for commuting to work. Think 50 km or less per day. Fleet use and leisure are what exceed your typical 250 km maximum range, for which your options are range extension (a network of charging stations or gigantic battery capacity) or internal combustion engine to supplement or recharge the electric driveline.

Internal combustion is here to stay, even if only in a perpetually diminishing presence. There will always be a requirement for fossil-fuelled transportation. You are not going to see, for instance, marine transport electrify. The battery and solar panel superstructure needed to sustain trans-pacific shipping voyage would be completely impractical, if not impossible. Marine would be better off going nuclear.

[junorico24]

Originally Posted by Lux

Near-total electrification is the future, no matter what. It's just not as near as some automakers and their faithful followers are speculating. Remember: these companies need to paint an optimistic projection to shareholders. Even if that expectation is often implausible.

Automobile electrification is the future because the automobile is used, chiefly, for commuting to work. Think 50 km or less per day. Fleet use and leisure are what exceed your typical 250 km maximum range, for which your options are range extension (a network of charging stations or gigantic battery capacity) or internal combustion engine to supplement or recharge the electric driveline.

Internal combustion is here to stay, even if only in a perpetually diminishing presence. There will always be a requirement for fossil-fuelled transportation. You are not going to see, for instance, marine transport electrify. The battery and solar panel superstructure needed to sustain trans-pacific shipping voyage would be completely impractical, if not impossible. Marine would be better off going nuclear.

You are absolutely spot on. Right on the money.

Even me i still can't ween myself off internal combustion engine just yet.

Hyundai and KIA still not producing the car that appeals to me.

Kia Stinger. I just saw it in person briefly but it was the showroom car so i couldn't scrutinize it. It didn't look eye catching in person. Then comes the price 50k for a 2ltr and 60K for the TT6. No thanks. Plus it's automatic.

Hyundai i30N. Nice car again. The reviews are great. But it's FWD and whilst it has the room for me and my 2 important others (wife and kid). I just want a real sports car.

Electric cars are over priced. The Nissan leaf is coming out probably the cheapest EV on the market and it's 50K Aussie dollars for one. No way!

But Toyota has the car a fun car RWD Toyota 86 that i want. What put me off it was the back seats. But i think i can make it work.

[junorico24]

KIA SPORTAGE 2016 Diesel AWD update.

60 000 KM on the clock.

Still no dramas. Bullet proof so far..

Hope i don't jinx myself.

The only thing that concerns me is the long intervals between service. 15K km between service. I think it's too long. Maybe KIA have so much confidence in their products..I am happy with the car. Been reliable. Just wish it was a bit more fun to drive. But it's not bad.

[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by junorico24

KIA SPORTAGE 2016 Diesel AWD update.

60 000 KM on the clock.

Still no dramas. Bullet proof so far..

Hope i don't jinx myself.

The only thing that concerns me is the long intervals between service. 15K km between service. I think it's too long. Maybe KIA have so much confidence in their products..I am happy with the car. Been reliable. Just wish it was a bit more fun to drive. But it's not bad.

Very nice; thanks for the update. 60k KM on the clock is a good bit.

[junorico24]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

Very nice; thanks for the update. 60k KM on the clock is a good bit.

Mate..At the start everyone is like DO NOT GET A KIA.

It's too unreliable. So i was like, Hmmmm, really?

F it I i'll get one and find out if all this fuss is true..

It's all BS!

[Whiplash]

Originally Posted by junorico24

KIA SPORTAGE 2016 Diesel AWD update.

60 000 KM on the clock.

Still no dramas. Bullet proof so far..

Hope i don't jinx myself.

The only thing that concerns me is the long intervals between service. 15K km between service. I think it's too long. Maybe KIA have so much confidence in their products..I am happy with the car. Been reliable. Just wish it was a bit more fun to drive. But it's not bad.

This is why I gave my 2014 Forte SX to my dad...it was perfectly reliable, and a great daily driver. But it was so boring to drive. My dad is very happy with it.