Kia and Hyundai.

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Originally Posted by junorico24

What the heck is going on with these two?

They have upped their game in a few years.

Now what is all this talk about stinger rwd sedan and 130 N AWD monster. What is it they can't do? they have surprised people.Hope KIA changes that badge though.

I am becoming a fan. Toyota, Honda, and Mazda better lift their game up.

Mazda have upped evryones game with thier new HCCI Skyactive-X engineHomogeneous Charge Compression Ignition, or HCCI, is a form of combustion that, like diesel, does not require spark. The compression alone ignites the fuel/air mixture much more efficiently than a conventional gasoline engine -- and it's cleaner than sooty, nitrous-oxide-plagued diesels. Mazda dubs it SkyActiv-X, the first production HCCI engine.
you can read more on it here......autoweek.com/article/technology/watch-how-mazda-built-new-engine-technology